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08 Aug 2013, 9:19 pm

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The word sounds so much like artist that I'm sure, verbally, a listener might get confused.

I have calligraphic script tattoos designed for either side of my neck that will say "Artist" on one side and "Autist"" on the other.

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08 Aug 2013, 9:20 pm

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I don't want to be offensive or anything, but the word Autist sounds a bit strange. The reason the word sounds weird is because it sounds like being Autistic is a choice, and none of us have chosen to be Autistic. Autist sounds like a job to me like scientist or journalist., even though it would be nice if we could get paid for being Autistic.

I think the term Autie is cute though. What is your opinion on the word Autist? I was wondering if anyone else felt like it made being Autistic sound like a job.

How exactly is it different to "Aspie"?

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08 Aug 2013, 9:22 pm

I like Aspie and Autie.

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08 Aug 2013, 9:40 pm

I don't use autist, I use autistic as adjective and noun, and same for neurotypical.

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08 Aug 2013, 10:03 pm

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Musicgirl wrote:

I think the term Autie is cute though. What is your opinion on the word Autist? I was wondering if anyone else felt like it made being Autistic sound like a job.

How exactly is it different to "Aspie"?

Well Aspie does feel a bit weird now too since AS is outdated. I only use the term Aspie on this website. Not very often anymore though. Also, I don't like the Americanized pronunciation of Asperger's anymore. I prefer the original pronunciation and Aspie doesn't sound similar to the original pronunciation.

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08 Aug 2013, 10:05 pm

Grammatically, they are both correct:

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au·tism (ôtzm)
n.
A pervasive developmental disorder characterized by severe deficits in social interaction and communication, by an extremely limited range of activities and interests, and often by the presence of repetitive, stereotyped behaviors.
autist n.
au·tistic (-tk) adj. & n.
au·tisti·cal·ly adv.

The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language. Fourth Edition. Copyright ©2000 Houghton Mifflin Company.

As shown ↑, autist is a noun, while autistic is both an adjective and a noun. I also usually capitalize the words Autism and Autist (to indicate an identity).

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08 Aug 2013, 10:16 pm

Hmm, I don't spend my time autising, nor do I strive to create works of aut. Oh well, des goûts et des couleurs.

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08 Aug 2013, 10:22 pm

Etymologically, autist is pretty much the same as idiot. Curious, isn't it?

Online Etymology Dictionary wrote:

autistic (adj.)
1912 (Bleuler), from autism (q.v.). Noun meaning "person with autism" is recorded from 1968 (earlier in this sense was autist).

autism (n.)
1912, from German Autismus, coined 1912 by Swiss psychiatrist Paul Bleuler (1857-1939) from comb. form of Greek autos- "self" (see auto-) + -ismos suffix of action or of state. The notion is of "morbid self-absorption."

idiot (n.)
early 14c., "person so mentally deficient as to be incapable of ordinary reasoning;" also in Middle English "simple man, uneducated person, layman" (late 14c.), from Old French idiote "uneducated or ignorant person" (12c.), from Latin idiota "ordinary person, layman; outsider," in Late Latin "uneducated or ignorant person," from Greek idiotes "layman, person lacking professional skill" (opposed to writer, soldier, skilled workman), literally "private person (as opposed to one taking part in public affairs)," used patronizingly for "ignorant person," from idios "one's own" (see idiom).

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08 Aug 2013, 10:22 pm

Certain English people might be confused either way, because some dialects there say artistic like autistic.

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08 Aug 2013, 10:53 pm

RandyG wrote:

Hmm, I don't spend my time autising, nor do I strive to create works of aut. Oh well, des goûts et des couleurs.

Haha Who does? This is funny. I am getting a lot of amusement out of the comments on this thread. :heart:

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08 Aug 2013, 11:54 pm

I think that Autists need to "own" the words Autist and Autism - much as many people in the LGBT community call themselves "Queer" (which has generally been an insult).

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09 Aug 2013, 12:25 am

I know what the OP means. It somehow sounds strange as if it were one's choice to have autism. But I guess when there is a word ending with -ism, the -ist version of the word to mean a person associated with it is often derived from it. I don't know if that's how "autist" came about. I wouldn't say I don't like it though.

I actually don't like the words "autie" and "aspie". I avoid using them myself.

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09 Aug 2013, 1:14 am

jk1 wrote:

I actually don't like the words "autie" and "aspie". I avoid using them myself.

I have no problem with aspie, it sound like a natural short term for Asperger syndrome (which almost sounds like a death sentence lol).
I dislike autie, even though I have used it. It sounds childish to me and too cute.

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09 Aug 2013, 1:16 am

Don't even think I've heard the word autist before. It doesn't sit well.

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09 Aug 2013, 1:40 am

I don't like the word autist, but I can't think of a good reason why. It feelst too strong and all encompassing.

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09 Aug 2013, 1:41 am

autist, autistic, aspie, aspergian, aspergers person, whatever, they're all just words, and bound to be better than what most NT people would have called us at school!
I have depression and anxiety too, but you won't see me calling myself a depressive or an angstyman!
Just use whatever word makes you comfortable, and if you can't find one, don't use a label or diagnosis, or just make up a word of your own. Of course you could always just say you're the type of person that would rather read a book in the library than go out and play; that doesn't have the stigma of a label attached, other than maybe nerd!

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