Empathy, do you have more or less than NTs?

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01 Nov 2013, 8:54 am

I have very poor cognitive empathy- So I have trouble understanding what someone is thinking or feeling unless they tell me.

I have good affective empathy- I can identify with someone and feel emotions, if they DO tell me somethin upsetting I feel for them. I just have trouble expressing it, afraid I might make them feel worse



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01 Nov 2013, 8:58 am

I think in some ways I have too much empathy, but in other ways not enough.


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01 Nov 2013, 9:10 am

too much. WAYYYYY too much. Makes me a big rainer.



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01 Nov 2013, 11:29 am

vickygleitz wrote:
too much. WAYYYYY too much. Makes me a big rainer.


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01 Nov 2013, 11:43 am

marcusphillipus wrote:
Hi, Although I definitely struggle in Social situations, I also experience Empathy to a high degree. What people need to understand is that we all are Wired uniquely and an Aspie will be on a Spectrum of how mild or extreme any of their Aspie Traits will "present" or be experienced in that individual. Similarly there are those like myself who have a High Empathy/Emotional Level on that Spectrum of Personality, check out HSP's ("Highly Sensitive People" by Elaine Aron) which includes High Sensitivity to Sound and other Sensory Input. Plus there will also be the NT Personality Types thrown into the mix! such as Standard Introvert/Extrovert and Myers-Briggs and other Categories, as well as the influences of Genetics and Environmental/Social Influences, both positive (nurturing) and Negative...In my case I am often overwhelmed by Sensory-Input in Social Situations, being Hyper-Aware of the sound-levels and confusion of too many simultaneous conversations, plus my own struggles to appear relaxed and NT/Normal. I like a comment that the Tuvak Character made in ST Voyager, that "Composure is not mistaken for EASE", along the same lines, Albert Camus said; "Nobody realises that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal"
I would just add, I am no "expert" the above is just the results of experience of my own life and opinions, hopefully based upon honesty and reality!


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01 Nov 2013, 12:39 pm

According to studies, Aspies have as much, and many times, more empathy than NTs... the difference is that it is not automatic with us.


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01 Nov 2013, 1:19 pm

I am extremely empathic, but don't always process intense emotions the same way as others. I have found I have the ability to detach from my emotions to a degree temporarily, but for only so long before I experience a complete and total break down, usually over something tiny. The proverbial straw that broke the camels back.

I remember once in middle school the teacher was teaching about slavery and when she described the conditions on a slave ship I had to leave the room. Didn't ask, just got up and walked out. Left school grounds completely and went to the park. They had to have the police find me and bring me back, amazingly enough I don't remember getting in trouble that time... I was always in trouble (this was before Asperger's)



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01 Nov 2013, 1:22 pm

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I know I have more empathy than most people I know, but where I fall down is in expressing said empathy in a socially appropriate manner. as an example, I was in the ER one day with a complication of a broken arm, and I heard the little kid next door screaming and wailing in pain and abject terror. I wept when I heard this kid, I FELT his pain and terror, but when the nurse came into my stall and asked me why I was crying, I could only say something about "that poor kid!" over and over. :oops:


Hi auntblabby,
I can relate to that.


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02 Nov 2013, 1:43 am

StarCity wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I know I have more empathy than most people I know, but where I fall down is in expressing said empathy in a socially appropriate manner. as an example, I was in the ER one day with a complication of a broken arm, and I heard the little kid next door screaming and wailing in pain and abject terror. I wept when I heard this kid, I FELT his pain and terror, but when the nurse came into my stall and asked me why I was crying, I could only say something about "that poor kid!" over and over. :oops:


Hi auntblabby,
I can relate to that.

thanx :) I probably have my own memories from my own time as a toddler when I was hospitalized and in such abject terror they had to put me to sleep.



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02 Nov 2013, 2:11 am

auntblabby wrote:
I know I have more empathy than most people I know, but where I fall down is in expressing said empathy in a socially appropriate manner. as an example, I was in the ER one day with a complication of a broken arm, and I heard the little kid next door screaming and wailing in pain and abject terror. I wept when I heard this kid, I FELT his pain and terror, but when the nurse came into my stall and asked me why I was crying, I could only say something about "that poor kid!" over and over. :oops:


Sometimes I go past someone who I can feel is in emotional pain, and I start crying. I also break down if I go past too many of these people in a day. :[



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02 Nov 2013, 2:16 am

bleh12345 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
I know I have more empathy than most people I know, but where I fall down is in expressing said empathy in a socially appropriate manner. as an example, I was in the ER one day with a complication of a broken arm, and I heard the little kid next door screaming and wailing in pain and abject terror. I wept when I heard this kid, I FELT his pain and terror, but when the nurse came into my stall and asked me why I was crying, I could only say something about "that poor kid!" over and over. :oops:


Sometimes I go past someone who I can feel is in emotional pain, and I start crying. I also break down if I go past too many of these people in a day. :[

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02 Nov 2013, 3:34 am

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02 Nov 2013, 5:05 am

people who are empathic are pathologically "em"-like.
they say "mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm" when they are in a full blown empathic seizure.



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02 Nov 2013, 3:04 pm

My empathy is complicated. I have it for some people, and I don't have it for other people. There is very little in between ground.

For example, if someone kills themselves doing some thing stupid, I could easily make a Darwin Award joke about it and laugh. My empathy for them would be zero. If they didn't care about their own life, I can't conceive any logical reason, why I should care about it.

If some one is hurt because of circumstances beyond their control, then I would have a lot of empathy for them. To me empathy is deserved, not automatic. If that makes any sense.



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04 Nov 2013, 5:51 am

I cannot relate to other peoples feelings nor can I tell what people are thinking/feeling. I am able to care about other peoples well being though and don't desire to hurt people for no reason.



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10 Nov 2013, 10:28 am

I still don't exactly get empathy. In some situations I can feel empathy, and in others I don't so much. I'm more sensitive to other people's feelings than the other type of empathy.

Today is remembrance Sunday in the UK (don't know about anywhere else), and I was on the bus, and it got to a bit where there were soldiers marching along the high street, playing drums. As they were marching near (the bus had to stop for a few minutes while the high street was closed off), I actually began to feel a little emotional, because it just brought that feeling to me of all the brave people that fought in the war and what it might have been like, and I had some tears in my eyes. But I felt I was the only one on the bus who felt like that, and I believe there was a more likely chance that I was the only Aspie on the bus. Most of the other people on the bus weren't even looking, or were just talking to each other. I just sensed that I was the only one that felt this emotional. But I suppose people here are going to start giving ifs, buts and maybes because people on the spectrum can't seem to admit that not all NTs are sensitive, emotional, empathetic people like I seem to be.

Usually when someone is listening to loud music in their ears, they usually shout when talking to others. My (NT) brother did it the other day. I said, ''take your headphones off a minute, you're shouting!'' and he did, then said, ''was I shouting?'' in a normal tone, and we all said yes. I feel the same when I have my headphones on, I think that I am talking at a normal tone but really I'm shouting, as though your brain thinks that just because you can't hear yourself talking that well, it means they can't hear you that well, but they can. It's just because you've got music in your ears. Empathy isn't always simple logic, even NTs make these types of mistakes all the time.


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