Noopept/Piracetam to treat NVLD/Asperger's?

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01 Mar 2013, 8:14 pm

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is it as good or better than strattera? that was the magic pill for me. alas, my insurance won't cover it.

That's interesting. What does it do for you? I'm on Strattera, and the only real difference I've noticed was that it helped me to focus better. You know, sit down and apply myself.

that's about what it did for me [aside from aggravating my GERD]. but that in itself was a world of improvement, it made me feel semi-normal for once. i could be calm, not having to worry about not being able to get other people.



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01 Mar 2013, 9:31 pm

Noopept is definitely the stronger of the two. You can actually feel once it kicks in, somewhat reminiscent of Ritalin, but Piracetam is more subtle.



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29 May 2013, 6:36 am

First of all this is my first post here (and my first post anywhere on a non-chess forum! I am a chess player) but I felt like piracetam has been so effective that I wanted to share with others in the hope they will try it as well. I was diagnosed with mild HFA/Asperger's as an adult after struggling for a long time.

The reason doctors will not prescribe piracetam widely, I believe, is because of the drug companies who have their own agenda, of course. I do not know why they have not promoted piracetam, possibly because it can be tricky to get consistent results and it can work better with some choline source. Please, those who say they will only take some prescribed medication need to open their eyes. Doctors will only offer what they have been told to. Piracetam has been clinically proven to be safe, and is in fact neuroprotective.
I'm certainly no expert, but I believe it works by helping the two sides of the brain -somewhat over-simplified the logical side and the creative side - to connect with each other. You can almost feel this happening!

I pretty much agree with the other posters about the positive effects - increased motor skills, emotions, empathy, confidence, concentration. I'm less disturbed by interruptions to my schedule, less sensitive in general, and do not take things so personally. Words which I have known how to spell since I was 10 I now know the meaning of instead of. Music sounds better; I feel connected to the world for the first time. It is also an excellent anti-depressant in my opinion.

Longecity is a very good site and where I got most of my information.



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31 May 2013, 9:34 am

Wow I really want to try piracetam! :shaking2:
I just started reading about it, didn't know it existed. :oops:
Ironically it seems to make people "autistic" through brain-overcharging :lol:
Light-sensitivity, better hearing etc...
A person reported "decreased social skills" as he thought it was more interesting thinking about things than socializing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nootropic just look at this list! Apparently nicotine is a nootropic as well.
I plan to get a regimen of nootropics the likes never seen before. :nerdy:

(though I avoid temporary stimulants)



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31 May 2013, 11:10 am

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If these drugs do, indeed, repair long-term damage, I would imagine there would be no need to take them long-term.


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13 Dec 2013, 5:45 pm

Supernova2 wrote:

I pretty much agree with the other posters about the positive effects - increased motor skills, emotions, empathy, confidence, concentration. I'm less disturbed by interruptions to my schedule, less sensitive in general, and do not take things so personally. Words which I have known how to spell since I was 10 I now know the meaning of instead of. Music sounds better; I feel connected to the world for the first time. It is also an excellent anti-depressant in my opinion.

Longecity is a very good site and where I got most of my information.


I don't post here, but I came to attest to this after googling piracetam & High-functioning Autism. I've been taking piracetam for 9 months, and it has changed my life. I have not lost my unique sense of self, and I still have vibrant passions and my intelligence, but I've noticed I'm less afraid of social situations. I still have problems reading what people want and think, but the trauma of the past failures with social cues is reduced, therefore I am enabled to keep trying and not fear.

I also can attest to understanding words better. I have always loved charts, graphs, spelling, and symmetrical patterns in general (like crossword puzzles - I made these most days while growing up, for fun), but now I can understand what the meanings are behind all these patterns. I'll never fully "get it" I don't think, but I definitely SEE the connection between me and society, now.

The main way that piracetam has helped me is by allowing me to calmly choose which stimuli I want to focus on. Instead of feeling overwhelmed by a bright, open restaurant with tons of stimuli, I can sort of "zone in" to just the table I'm sitting at. It's bizarre, and I'm AWARE of it as it happens, so I don't lose my true self with this medication.

I hope this helps others.



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07 Feb 2014, 10:19 pm

Yes Decomunicator, it removes the fear and previous painful memories and allows you to start fresh.

On the issue of repairing long-term brain damage - I stopped taking piracetam and at the beginning felt great, but after a couple of weeks the depression and a-motivation returned... So perhaps it only repairs whilst you are taking it. I did take rather a lot of class A drugs earlier in my life though so not sure how that affects things.

Highly recommended :-) Start off with a large dose for the first few days/weeks, then you might find you want to lower it over time. I started on 4.8G twice a day but began to have some aggression issues and lack of patience with others. Now I find a lower dose - 2.6G 3 times a day works better. Also, you may need to take choline or alcar with it, especially at higher doses.

Safer than caffeine, paracetamol and sugar.....



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08 Feb 2014, 4:38 pm

I wouldn't touch it that stuff with a bargepole. It f***s with your hypothalamus and gives you long-term damage via oxidation. It literally gives you brain damage and causes sexual dysfunction: http://selfhacked.com/2013/07/17/why-i- ... piracetam/.



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08 Feb 2014, 4:51 pm

You base your opinion on some guy's blog on the internet? Read the comments below the blog - there are many more positive reports than negative. Piracetam clearly doesn't agree with everyone.. it's not perfect.



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08 Feb 2014, 5:08 pm

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You base your opinion on some guy's blog on the internet? Read the comments below the blog - there are many more positive reports than negative. Piracetam clearly doesn't agree with everyone.. it's not perfect.


But I looked up the studies that he cited... and apparently piracetam causes oxiditive stress to the hypothalamus, it's not something he made up. This would have the same effect if you suffered from chronic sleep deprivation and stress. I've also read how piracetam/noopept cause sexual-dysfunction. Which I suspect is because they f**k with the hypothalamus via oxidative stress. The hypothalamus is responsible for regulation of androgens and other hormones. If you damage it consistenly.. you have to go on HCG and Testosterone replacement for the rest of your life. People should be more cautious with what they use. I mean I don't mean to chastize people for wanting to get rid of their problems. s**t, no one here would love to get rid of my NVLD as much as me. But even these drugs (which also are unreliable and whose effects might wear-off) come at a price.



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08 Feb 2014, 6:12 pm

I don't usually read the studies, terrible I know... instead I trust people (usually from Longecity) to read them for me and get my information from that. The general consensus is that piracetam is mostly a good thing and from a personal point of view it has made my life actually worth living after 20 years of depression, so that's good enough for me.

Should people be more cautious? Life is for living, who wants to live a life depressed and not being able to do the things they desire.

If someone was normal and healthy then that may be a different story of course as they would have more to lose...



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08 Jul 2015, 3:46 pm

Noopept can certainly improve one's ability to focus, however, use in moderation or be prepared to face the consequences. As a slight 150lb male, I foolishly decided to take four times the recommended dosage and awoke the next morning feeling extremely irritable and fatigued.


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08 Jul 2015, 6:52 pm

As an update to my previous posts:
I've used piracetam + alcar + omega 3 for about 2.5 years almost without a break and it has helped me enormously (I have mild Asperger's) with motor skills, empathy, and self control. The first year or so is more intense and over time I found it necessary to reduce the dosage. It is possible to take it on a unscheduled basis but I've noticed that after a couple of days I go back to normal - feelings of hopelessness and no desire to communicate etc.



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08 Jul 2015, 11:12 pm

I tried Piracetam & Phenylpiracetam & they didn't do anything for me. Taking tictacs would of been just as effective.


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19 Mar 2017, 4:12 am

Can you purchase piracetam online? And if so, where?


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19 Mar 2017, 10:06 am

I've never tried any nootropics, but brain octane removes a lot of brain fog. It also suppresses your appetite. So it's the opposite of an anti-depressant in a good way.


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