Aspies and NTs

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Before you said a majority you would rant on how all of them oppressed us. However, my rant here and the one on conformity is not to target you entirely since you seem to fit the bill that I saw in a bunch of other people.

And no, I have never seen any slut girls in my town, only one who came from Germany that we called the town prostitute, even then she doesn't fit a stereotypical mold. I think to look down upon people because of their outward appearance is a bit judging as well; let girls dress preppy or in skirts so long as they know what they're doing. I don't advocate that sort of fashion in little girls since that makes them pedo-bait but in a sense that is a broad term because anyone can be a target. I guess it just makes them look more appealing.

And I don't see what's wrong with rednecks seeing how I am in a redneck family, you know, the guys work in manual labor, we have a lot of cars, we bring fourwheelers through the mud and stuff, and hey, do you think I do that to be cool? Naw, it's just fun~

I don't know about good in a collective everyone, but I certainly don't believe that NTs are collectively bad based on what goes on in school which has relatively little to do with what goes on in life afterward. There is also the fact that many NTs are also considered outsiders and bullied, beat up and called names. It's simple pack behavior. The bullies in my school have committed suicide, gotten divorced and become alcolholics or gone to jail for killing people while driving drunk. They may have thought they were all that back then, but it's pretty apparent that being top dog did nothing for them in the real world and they couldn't handle the change.

Your years in school will be short. If you are being beat up, take up martial arts.

Just understand that bullies do not equate to all NTs. Even during the time of Nazi Germany and mass extermination of Jews when pack behavior caused unbelievable atrocities, Denmark refused to name their Jews and many Catholic schools hid them. Human behavior in everyone varies. If we start making vast generalizations and foment hatred on NTs because of the senseless actions of some, we become just like the ones we hate. It's the inevitability of such thinking. Don't let yourself get caught in that trap. Exercise caution, but stay away from paranoia.

NO ONE LAYS HANDS ON A GIRL??
you mean no one laid hands on YOU. I want to hasten to assure you, being a GIRL is no defense in the REAL WORLD! I am not saying you should know any different, MarieElana, but I would like to disabuse you of your theory as I had been sexually assaulted long before I got into junior high school because 'no one will believe you any way!" Matter of fact, being targeted as a patsy in school was the least of my troubles, it was at home that I had my abuse nightmares!

sorry, just tell me that children are no longer abused, sexually or other wise anymore. And I will be glad, they aren't and thank you for letting me know that being a girl is all it takes anymore to ward off unwanted physical contact and I should't worry.


Merle

Now this is a really cool NT. Look at what she says about Autism and what she promotes. She at gets it. Shirley Levi


Maria Elena, I do agree with Sins. Be careful about that girl thing. I wasn't bullied in school (I had five brothers who wouldn't tolerate it), but because I'm often in my head and not paying attention, I have been harassed by a certain type of men who think that's an invitation to abuse me. It's sad that while we are just enjoying ourselves that some think it's an opportunity to take advantage, but they do it to NTs as well. Just realize you are at special risk because you can't read non-verbal as well and you probably also tend to get lost in your enjoyable thoughts. I don't want to see you become a victims. Just exercise caution.

I agree. When I look back on those who bullied me, I wouldn't classify them as particularly NT, certainly not intelligent. Many of these people went on to have criminal records, and at least one I know about died in prison.

I might have over generalized but I think it's more of a boy thing. In elementary in middle school, and in highschool I have never seen any boy lay hands on a girl. Also I haven't seen any sexual predators, the fake dates was more of a prank than some evil scheme to get me raped. I suppose in a sense it may be a different world where I live since a lot of world issues don't touch this society.

I disagree with your statement that no one lays hands on a girl. I'm a girl and I have been in many fights. I have even been in fights with boys.

I'm just speaking on experience in school, it's not like my perception is absolute :/

Quite right. I believe the high school experience is the culmination of the "let's pretend" of elementary school. Everyone is working hard to act a role to fit into their particular group. The football player becomes an insurance salesman who marries the former cheerleader who becomes addicted to prescription pain killers because she's developed an autoimmune response from her breast implants. He becomes disenchanted and has an affair; she divorces him and cries miserably to her therapist weekly so she can function as a single mother on a treadmill to get home from work in time to get the kids to all their activities so they can repeat the cycle. It is not always a wonderful life.

Some NTs, like my husband, very much resent being lumped into generalizations about humanity. Everyone has a spectrum of personality traits and some of those we share with NTs in varying degrees.

My dad has spanked my sister many times in the past. Ooooohhhh, maybe I should call CPS on him. LOL.

Yeah, the most a guy's ever done was the spankings I got from my Dad but they stopped when I started behaving :B

I was like that as a small kid, way too trusting... it shocked me profoundly when it finally dawned on me that I seemed to be the only one who held a certain set of ethical principles to be so precious. Haven't been the same since.

Maybe I was BORN on another planet, and didn't know it. If so, I WANT TO GO BACK! Males were told NOT to hurt or corrupt females. To attack a female, or be hurt by one, was effectively the DEFINITION of emasculating! Women were considered the weaker sex, and were supposed to be more refined.

Steve

I get the vibe that some people look down on NT's too much as well. It comes off as really wanting to think of yourself as superior to boost your self esteem, when really we are all people, some are just wired a little differently. Seeing as the NT's make up a large majority of the population, it's best to learn to learn to get along.

I don't believe in NTs are that the same. NT are different more from natural things rather than their makeup. If anything NTs are probably just as much if not more susceptible to emotional disorders. I can relate a lot to SA people. Some of the nicest people you could meet. Granted they are not all so nice, but you get a little 'over compensating' in everything. But having said I couldn't imagine making friends with any NT that are not SA. It is question of being able to relate. When I was a kid I was kid I wasn't interested friends or know what they were about. I was just around people some of the time. A lot of people were horrible to me because I was different. Some were nice but I didn't know what to do or think about it. When I turned twenty I realised I was missing something and felt isolated. It took me four years of failed attempts to figure out what the friend thing was. I learnt quite a bit and I won't go into it all here but there is quite a bit about being AS that can give you an edge on these problems. But trust and closeness are big problems for me. I only have two friends that I can trust. I took me months and months to make that feeling go away that they were going to reject me. They are my real friends but two is enough. I think it is impossible to have a huge number of close friends you are spreading it too thin. What I realised is I wind up more people than people get me. This can be frustrating because I don't know what I'm doing wrong. But even if you wind up 90% of people 10% is enough if you're smart. I haven't met any AS yet. I want to definitely and I think I would relate to them well. At the same time I think some of them will wind them up even more that NTs. Especially if they are too like me pedantic about the same things.

But yeh NTs SUCK! forget what I said.

It seems these days they're inventing more and more disorders that people can have x: Like my brother has ODD and is an as*hole. The solution would be therapy and things but for me it would be a nice boot in the ass.

Anyways, that was slightly off-topic but I guess that is why there is no one truly NT, everyone has their tics.