is it just me or do most NTs seem stupid in a lot of ways

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it seems that most cant see there own shortcomings or see there own flawed nature that comes with being an NT even when pointed out to them eg things like herd mentality and the need to conform and follow

Stop with the NT hate. We don't like being criticized unjustly by NTs; let's not do it to them.

They're not stupid, they're just different. They're brains function differently than mine, so they see, do, speak and handle things much different than I do. Their behavior oftentimes baffles me. I can't read social cues, that's why. My behavior often confuses them.

I have to have patience with them when I don't get them, just like I want them to have patience with me because I have Asperger's.

Thank you, just thank you.

If conforming makes someone happy who are you to judge?

That just doesnt apply just to the NT people. (not going to say them because I dont believe in the NT vs. Aspies "war"). I know alot of not normal people who act like that.

im sorry that came out wrong i mean that most "normal people" seem to be closed minded or don't seem to what to understand there own flaws that comes with being "normal" but just want us to change and conform

It sounds like you're frustrated at people who won't realise that their way is not neccessarily the best or only way, and who insist on us changing simply because we aren't normal. Is that correct?

yes and it seem even when you explain things to them in a logical way they deny they do it like they don't even know they do the things they do that's why i said stupid that was the wrong word to use i know

I really do not get this whole NT thing at all.
I went to school with mostly ASD kids up to the 7th grade - were they better ppl then NT's - NO!
The ppl who mean the most to me; family and friend are NT's. Insult NT's are you not also insulting them?

The whole idea of an NT world and AS vs NT really does seem completely bonkers to me.

Maybe I should start a classic "real" autism vs aspergers schism - it would be just as silly.

vent over

Realize that people have their own perception of self. Just like you have your own perception of self.

If they aren't looking to change a behavior you shouldn't point it out, it will ALWAYS fall on deaf ears. As well you will ALWAYS be seen as the "bad guy" for it.

i too love my family but even they walk through life with there eyes closed it seems honestly im not trying to insult anyone its just why do most not question the things they do also why are they unable to see there own programed behaviors the way we can

yes that's true but i meant pointing out stuff that normal people do in general they cant see it like they are not aware they do any of it

They see some of it some of the time, usually when they are pointing out flaws or things they like in someone else, but when it comes to "self" identifying with a group behavior it's much more difficult for them to see the similarities. They are fixated on a cause or feeling they had when they did it, not the action. Sort of like we fixate on the action/outcome, but not the cause/feeling.

It gets even more complex than that when you add in age, experience, cultural influences,etc, but that is the basic idea. The younger they are the less they "see" and so on and so forth. I found that well rounded older people tend to see it as well and are considered wise, because they are able to fashion a metaphor for it that everyone gets.

i suppose the fact that we are often watching from "outside" as opposed to being "apart of it" also plays into why we see more but when they point out my autistic traits i become aware of them unlike them when i do it to them isnt that strange

Last edited by kazma on 16 Jan 2014, 10:05 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I completely agree, yet sometimes in can be difficult due to always being the ones (ASD) being put down, ignored, insults etc.. So it's easier to lash out sometimes and talk down NTs. I find myself doing it too, because honestly I do find them generally unintelligent and herd like and they do bother me because of the way I have been treated by them my whole life. It's an understandable line to cross once in a while for someone with ASD who has hard a very rough life, but yet again that would be an emotional reaction, so it's best to contain oneself and be mature.