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This is what I really said:

Littlebee you have quoted it 3 times minus the part where I'm saying she can speak for herself, pretending that I'm being condescending to KoR.

In the first place, even if I had said Kingdom of Rats is the Woman! without adding the other part, it would not have been condescending. Let me put it this way again - KINGDOMOFRATS IS THE WOMAN! Whether you understand what I mean by that or not is your problem.

You've also spent an inordinate amount of time trying to get Jen to say I'm being mean to KingdomOfRats - that worked out for you right? You know why Jen won't say it and why KingdomOfRats wont' believe it either? Because all three of us talk to each other - we talk WITH each other. We respect each other and are interested in each other.

You just keep trying to pathetically manipulate people and never works. You intentionally tried to make KingdomOfRats beleive that there was a gang of people who were being nice to her (one of which was me), but who really think she's stupid. Everybody sees you for what you are, and we've known it all along anyway. You may as well give it up.

Cheese with your whine?

Why do humans squabble so much?

Because something that may seem unimportant like a squabble or some bickering may actually be quite important to the people involved.

They're right though. The thread is going to get locked and we're all going to be embarrassed.

Maybe we should stick to talking about fluffy clouds and kitties and puppies!

I regret nothing.

jenisautistic wrote:

Jen, to me this comment is just shape-shifting gibberish.

Seems you're saying I am discriminating against K-O-R because I'm talking to her like I talk to everyone else. DO YOU GET IT??? I bet she does. And this is NOT to invalidate any of the experience she or anyone has had where you or she or whoever actually were or are being discriminated against.

In short, this is my communication style, but I do not see you commenting that it is disrespectful when I speak this way to other people---just when I am speaking this way to KingdomOfRats. HOW IS THAT???

So you are saying what I wrote is mean-spirited? Want to explain WHY and HOW???

I've read a lot of messages from you talking about how you were bullied and picked on by your peers etc. This is in no way to discount that these very troubling experiences actually happened or to suggest that picking on you was not wrong, but if you came up to a bunch of teenagers (many probably from troubled homes themselves and going through God knows what, working through all kinds of difficulties and trying to separate from their parents and integrate with their peers and have a little fun) and started this kind of nonsense with them, I can understand why they might turn on you. This is NOT to excuse their behavior. Personally as a child or teenager I NEVER picked on anyone. That was against my moral code which was ingrained into me at a very young age, and I would have stood up for you without hesitation. This is NOT to validate that they did whatever they did, but I can understand WHY they might have done so.

Now maybe someone is going to come out here after reading this and say that by writing this I am subtly endorsing the behavior of these bullying teenagers and saying it was okay. That would be a subtle reading into what I wrote, but a FALSE subtle reading. Interesting how some supposedly always black and white thinking literalist autistic people are able to grasp and use and even twist subtlety when it suits their own subjective purpose.

Wowsers, this thread has spun out of control.

Good. Nor do I. You should communicate about what is meaningful and important to yourself and try to get your point across even if some others may disagree.

It is unlikely that this thread will be shut down as people are sticking to ideas and communicating pretty civilly, actually. Conflict is a part of life and sometimes it is necessary to some degree in order for understanding to occur as long as people do not get their wheels stuck and start spinning there, but if they do, that imo should not be enough reason to shut down a thread. From the perspective of biophysics some kind of wheel spinning may be necessary in one spot in order for transcendence and epiphany to occur at some other spot on WP or anywhere..

Special or intelligent? Never made that claim, neither has many others here. Wired differently? Certainly, but that is it.

Have everything handed to us? Again. more true for an entire generation, not just us.

Not too in to the Normie-hating myself, just sometimes annoyed at their attitudes about things, but that is more society, not the individual. Truth is, when you are wired in a way that makes it more difficult to do things that -should- come easy: friends, social interaction, reading cues and body language, usw., those things are going to be harder and maybe society should make the effort as well to accommodate this, not just Autistics.

Repetitive subjects: Well, this is an Autists' playground, so there is that.

Understandable. But would it not be more productive to find solutions together rather than argue?

What if there are no right or wrong answers?

There really isn't a solution, we just need to stop reacting to each other.
I should have said what I felt it was necessary to say and then shut up.
I need a hand to come out of my computer and slap me!

Hi Bumble...I do not want to deflect the basic topic of this thread, but I guess this kind of fits in. If what you write were true it would lead to a state of nihilism, as then life would have no meaning, which meaning always is contextual, and different people have different aims and contexts.. Conversely, all meaning being permanent would lead to a state of eternalism. These are two extremes, neither of which leads to stability of mind, and from either of which perspective learning cannot occur.

But it should be noted there are also kind of universal ethical contexts such as being kind to all people--however this does not mean a person should not necessarily kill a madman who is trying to murder other people (killing him being the only solution in a particular instance) because killing him would not be kind. What we are grappling with here is that it can get quite a bit more complex then this simple illustration. This is why, imo, it is necessary to develop ones mind in accordance with simple ethical principles of human behavior but also develop ones reasoning capacity to the extent that one is able to apply this basic understanding in complex situations.

In my opinion, arguments and conflicts and differences of opinion are fine, and I don't find them annoying. They serve the purpose of bringing thoughts into the open for anyone reading to know what is the range of thoughts and perspectives about a topic. What is annoying is operating from a narrow foundation of information as I see in discussions like the OP's #3 annoying behavior. As I said earlier, the discussing behavior is not annoying, but the narrow information and limited perspective caused by it is, and that is why I suggest to look beyond wp for reliable information on autism. Sometimes, people in self-diagnosis threads say that they have spent years researching autism and know more about autism than the professionals, but it is clear to me that they are not nearly as knowledgeable as they say, possibly due to narrow foundation of information. Another thing that is annoying is when topic discussion threads become back and forth messages of emotional support between two or three people, then the thread has lost its focus, and I am not interested anymore.

I agree Wrong Planet can be a bit annoying I mean a bunch of people who suffer from a lack of social interaction suddenly find a place that they can spill their heart and soul out.

A lot of posts are self indulgent tripe about simple problems that we would not even notice did we not put every little thing about ourselves under the microscope.


Having said all of the above Wrong Planet has been immensely helpful to me and others.

I guess somethings comparing the little stuff is what we do instead of small talk.

When I needed it this place has been company for me who cares if all ours posts are not A grade standard and profound.