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20 Mar 2014, 11:58 pm

Now this thread is my personal opinion feel free to disagree but I believe it from I that I have learned.

Aspergers is not related to autism Aspergers is autism end of story.
Like the term Autism Aspergers Syndrome does not have a very nice ring to it that is why the cute name Aspie was dreamed up.


My diagnosis says Autism Spectrum Disorder but it would have said Aspergers if it had been a few years ago.
I work full time and I am getting prepared for my driving test in the coming months.
The above two things did not come to me easy I had to struggle.
I am nearly 40 and up until I was 23 I could not hold down a job.

Now everybody is different but here is my list of difficulty's.


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I have never been in a relationship and do not have friends.

My Executive Functioning is a disaster.

Fine motor skills are a struggle for me I can not ride a bike for example and I am rubbish at any sports.

I have all the Autism sensitivity issues.

I don't express emotion in a normal way.

My hand writhing and spelling are shocking.

Up until recently my behavior could be quite childish.

I have difficulty remembering names and faces.

I have been bullied most of my life.

I have never lived independently and I do not get involved with household tasks or budgeting.


There is an old saying if it looks like a duck walks like a duck and quacks like a duck well then IT'S A DUCK. :lol:

I have been reading many posts here from members with so called classic Autism and their posts seem to be more coherent then mine.
Like I said I have trouble remembering names but 3 members sick in my head.

EzraS KingdomOfRats and the female member who holds a doll in her picture.

The things I have got right in my life I have struggled for they have not come easy to say the least.
I am also not complaining I am happy enough in my life these days.

I know there are aspies that have got married and had children with high paying jobs but for every one of them I would guess there are many more who really struggle.

I am starting to dislike the term Aspie like I am trying to pass myself off as the next Steve Jobs or Bill Gates.

The truth is I have Autism and accepting that fact makes me feel way more at ease with myself.

Being a member here has really boosted my confidence I feel good about the things I can do and accept the things I can't.

Being here I have learned to value myself as a person my difficulty's are not my fault I work with what I have.

I feel 90% more in common with those with so called classic Autism then I do with the NT world.

Lastly a book about Autism written by somebody with Autism would be so useful to parents and I think the 3 members I mentioned plus many more I can not remember would do an excellent job if they put their mind to it.



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21 Mar 2014, 12:46 am

I think it's more Aspies who insist on the strict division than those diagnosed with autism (under the DSM-IV).



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21 Mar 2014, 3:06 am

Even though I'm aware that Aspergers Syndrome and HFA are practically one and the same, I still refer to myself as having Aspergers in casual conversation. Why? Because it's what I was diagnosed with in the first place, and it just sounds better than saying I'm autistic. :P



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21 Mar 2014, 3:19 am

I don't really distinguish the two; I use Asperger's and autism concerning my own condition interchangably. I find it more useful to use the term autism when talking to people who may be unfamiliar with what Asperger's is, and occasionally have to point out to my mother when she says, "You're not autistic, you have Asperger's" that they are effectively one and the same.


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21 Mar 2014, 5:54 am

sharkattack wrote:
Now this thread is my personal opinion feel free to disagree but I believe it from I that I have learned.

Aspergers is not related to autism Aspergers is autism end of story.
Agree
Like the term Autism Aspergers Syndrome does not have a very nice ring to it that is why the cute name Aspie was dreamed up.
I think Aspie-Autistic has a nice ring to it


My diagnosis says Autism Spectrum Disorder but it would have said Aspergers if it had been a few years ago.
I work full time and I am getting prepared for my driving test in the coming months.
The above two things did not come to me easy I had to struggle.
I am nearly 40 and up until I was 23 I could not hold down a job.

Now everybody is different but here is my list of difficulty's.


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I have never been in a relationship and do not have friends.
Me to

My Executive Functioning is a disaster.
nightmare, disaster, disabling
Fine motor skills are a struggle for me I can not ride a bike for example and I am rubbish at any sports.
Klutz is me

I have all the Autism sensitivity issues.

I don't express emotion in a normal way.
I don't either. I suppressed them too long trying to fit it and be a real man or man up as they say today
My hand writhing and spelling are shocking.
I am shocked every time I see mine
Up until recently my behavior could be quite childish.

I have difficulty remembering names and faces.
Names

I have been bullied most of my life.
Yep
I have never lived independently and I do not get involved with household tasks or budgeting.
I do some household tasks but everything else is true


There is an old saying if it looks like a duck walks like a duck and quacks like a duck well then IT'S A DUCK. :lol:
laughing so as not to cry
I have been reading many posts here from members with so called classic Autism and their posts seem to be more coherent then mine.
I noticed that about my posts also
Like I said I have trouble remembering names but 3 members sick in my head.

EzraS KingdomOfRats and the female member who holds a doll in her picture.

The things I have got right in my life I have struggled for they have not come easy to say the least.
I am also not complaining I am happy enough in my life these days.

I know there are aspies that have got married and had children with high paying jobs but for every one of them I would guess there are many more who really struggle.

I am starting to dislike the term Aspie like I am trying to pass myself off as the next Steve Jobs or Bill Gates.
I identify as Aspie, Aspie-Autistic, Autistic and I am no Bill Gates although I use his software. I am not letting a few supremacists and a lot of bullies who mock me by saying ASS-BURGERS take away my identity

The truth is I have Autism and accepting that fact makes me feel way more at ease with myself.
yes,yes,yes

Being a member here has really boosted my confidence I feel good about the things I can do and accept the things I can't.
Getting there

Being here I have learned to value myself as a person my difficulty's are not my fault I work with what I have.

I feel 90% more in common with those with so called classic Autism then I do with the NT world.
Agree

Lastly a book about Autism written by somebody with Autism would be so useful to parents and I think the 3 members I mentioned plus many more I can not remember would do an excellent job if they put their mind to it.


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21 Mar 2014, 6:23 am

sharkattack wrote:
Now this thread is my personal opinion feel free to disagree but I believe it from I that I have learned.

Aspergers is not related to autism Aspergers is autism end of story.
Like the term Autism Aspergers Syndrome does not have a very nice ring to it that is why the cute name Aspie was dreamed up.

Anywhere diagnosis is determined by observation in anyone over around 5 they have to be the same. Because there isn't any way to observe in real time what someone's language development was way back when, and anyone who wants that much to observe, how would they be convinced it was the same child in a video even if there was one available?

Even if there were differences, that decision to base an autism diagnosis on a current observation has encouraged rediagnosing people with autism as Aspergers as they develop skills, the issue has become too confounded, and I'm not sure we knew where to draw a line in the first place, if there even was a line.

I hope you can tell I agree with you, SharkAttack?

And you probably are thinking of Jeni with the doll picture. I love reading posts by all three that you mentioned, they're great!!

The only thing I disagree with, is obviously having a job, any job, is usually going to be better than not being employed, if you can tolerate work. And more money is an advantage over less. And if it's a good marriage that is better than being alone. And children are a tremendous blessing.

But the above are things, and though I understand why you would say for everyone with ASD who has any or all of these there are many who really struggle, having things doesn't mean there isn't a struggle, maybe a huge difficult struggle. Because having those things means always existing in an NT world where you don't, not ever, fit in or find any acceptance except for the things you can do in the moment for others.



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21 Mar 2014, 6:33 am

When my son was diagnosed, they told me he has "Aspergers, a form of autism."

When I researched it I learned that Aspergers was a spectrum, essentially the same in nature as what was often called "High Functioning Autism," though I learned this term was considered problematic.

When my son was diagnosed, and then again when I was diagnosed (within a year of my son's diagnosis) the people I consulted all explained that the DSM was changing and the diagnosis would become Autism Spectrum Disorder after the change.

Some of the doctors said they thought this change obscured a meaningful distinction. I was then ignorant of most of the issues involved, though I have since learned about some of it, particularly thought the helpful comments of Verdandi and Callista here.

It seems to me that there is no serious disagreement that it makes sense to consider Aspergers a form of Autism. If there is a strong reason to further differentiate parts of the spectrum, I'm sure that will happen with time.

In the meantime, the symptoms that define the spectrum are shared and remain something we have to deal with.



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21 Mar 2014, 6:43 am

I refer to myself as having an autistic spectrum disorder, maybe because I tend to think literally.

Anyhow, you're certainly articulate about the things that you feel or notice; a lot of folks with ASD, AS, and so on have trouble with that.

Also, try the book "Look Me in the Eye" by John Elder Robison. If I had a nickel for every time I could relate to something he described about himself...



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21 Mar 2014, 6:56 am

When I look more into myself and realise how "Aspie" I really am, I do tend to use ASD to label myself, over Aspergers, because I am not as high functioning as I could be.

I've only used Aspergers when talking to people who don't understand ASD is a wide spectrum.


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21 Mar 2014, 7:38 am

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21 Mar 2014, 8:13 am

I am posting from my phone in work now so I have to make it short.

But thanks for all the replies.



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21 Mar 2014, 8:31 am

It all confuses me to tell the truth. About what is what. The one thing I know is that up until last year I was in a special school that was almost entirely kids on the spectrum. And no one ever differentiated us between classic autism kids and asperger kids (at least no where we could hear it). It wasn't until I started going online that I started seeing those terms being used.
I thought there was supposed to be a noteworthy difference between classic and aspergers. When I see a thread addressed to aspies, I feel like it does not include me. Which seems silly now that I think about it. And with me personally I don't know how much of my disabilities are from autism and how much are from dysparxia.

I'd like to go back to the way things were in school, where none of us said "you are a this and I am a that"
The one thing we could all say is, "we all know why we are here".



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21 Mar 2014, 9:14 am

I strongly agree and I'm glad we're all under the Autism Spectrum Disorder label now.

Sharkattack, I aspire to have a life that's something like yours in the future. Right now I'm a uni student living with my mum and I'm almost 30. By the time I'm your age I'd like to have a job as a librarian, either full-time or with enough hours to give me a salary on which I can support myself. I'd like to learn how to drive too, I'm not sure if I'll be able to but I may try taking lessons once I get my library degree. Getting married and having a family isn't even something I consider as a possibility for myself nor is having a normal social life.



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21 Mar 2014, 9:20 am

Verdandi wrote:
I think it's more Aspies who insist on the strict division than those diagnosed with autism (under the DSM-IV).

seconded!
have never known of a genuine classic autist who campaigned against aspergers being called autism [apart from the infamously famous droopy who was very derogatory towards aspies],all autisms are forms of autism-yet have known so many aspies campaign against aspergers being associated with classic autism,as like many NTs they havent had the experience with us to see what its all about.

whether we be talking of aspergers,classic autism, CDD etc,and am personaly only using the sub terms of autism in the autistic community when in need of making comparisons because we still use the ICD here and not the DSM manual but outside the autistic community call it all autism.
just because someone has a aspergers label it doesnt mean they cant be moderately or severely autistic in a high functioning way,a ex support staff of mine who had related very well with is a regular on here and is an aspie;severely high functioning autistic,relate to her very well in many ways in fact she is the only person IRL have ever related to.

the DSM got it right with their merging of autisms as it will lessen the level of discrimination of all ends of the spectrum due to people just looking at the labels.
hopefuly the ICD will be following suit next year,however we all know diagnostic manuals are like old women getting ready to go out;they spend forever caking the slap on and faffing about then eventualy they manage to drag themselves out the door and thereby releasing their new look to the public [good job mum doesnt read wp to see this]. :P


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21 Mar 2014, 9:28 am

I also personally find it comforting to see myself as being autistic, rather than a separation via Asperger's. I dislike the term "Aspie" because I find it's too cutesy in relation to what is a serious issue. NOT saying you can't have pride, though.



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21 Mar 2014, 9:37 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
Verdandi wrote:
I think it's more Aspies who insist on the strict division than those diagnosed with autism (under the DSM-IV).

seconded!
have never known of a genuine classic autist who campaigned against aspergers being called autism


I was glad. Like I said I never really quite understood the division. I mean sure we all have it in different degrees, but why two separate camps and what about those who might fall somewhere in the middle? Like "I'm half classic, half aspie"? Too confusing.