Social Intelligence is Key To Survival?

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dc2610
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25 Apr 2014, 5:42 pm

And my frustration grows. I can't manage to do. How come birds can do this but since I have ASD I cannot manage to do this? Does this mean the birds are smarter more evolved than I am?

I just read this blog post on www.jezebel.com:

http://bit.ly/1k37bj7

The latest: Ravens keep track of other ravens' social rank, even among groups to which they don't belong. They can then use that knowledge to predict which ravens will support which other ravens, position themselves optimally within social groups, and then WORK TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH THE PERFECT CRIME PROBABLY. In other words, ravens are shrewd political strategists.

The post also has a quote via IFLScience:

In certain social organizations and dominance hierarchies, the key to survival is social intelligence and an understanding of community dynamics. Not only do you need to know who's nice and who's not to get by on a daily basis, but for every political maneuver, it's important to know who will support whom.

The ravens also responded to simulated rank reversals in neighboring groups, suggesting that they've figured out who's boss among unknown birds just by watching and listening to them (since there was no physical contact between groups). It's the first evidence of animals tracking rank relations of individuals that don't belong to their own group — a useful skill for a bird switching foraging units.



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25 Apr 2014, 6:15 pm

dc2610 - please rest assured that there will be a certain number of Ravens who will be unable to conform to the social norms of their species and in most cases this will probably lead to their early demise.

But just occasionally, there will be a non-conformist individual who will succeed by breaking some of the rules.

Most animal societies operate a similar system!



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25 Apr 2014, 7:17 pm

MrGrumpy wrote:
dc2610 - please rest assured that there will be a certain number of Ravens who will be unable to conform to the social norms of their species and in most cases this will probably lead to their early demise.

But just occasionally, there will be a non-conformist individual who will succeed by breaking some of the rules.

Most animal societies operate a similar system!


that does not seem very reassuring :lol:



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25 Apr 2014, 7:37 pm

In theory, the human species should be able to offer a level playing field to all its members, but, in practice, the law of the jungle always applies.



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25 Apr 2014, 8:46 pm

Humans are particularly social animals. We evolved to orient toward our caregivers and attract their attention so we can get out needs met, except that survival instinct is messed up in those of us with ASD. Human babies are helpless and dependent on caregivers far longer than babies of most species.



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26 Apr 2014, 3:37 am

To really understand evolution, you have to look at it from the perspective of the gene, not the organism. The gene is immortal; the organism is just a temporary carrier of the gene.

If Asperger's is genetic, and it's still floating in the gene pool, it likely gives some benefit to the survival of the species as a whole. I just found out what I am a couple days ago, but from what I've gathered, and what I've learned about myself in 46 years....

Many of us have some fantastic skills to share with humanity. If all of us were completely dysfunctional, this set of brain wiring would be much more rare.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At4Vmo13vJE

If I know how to make fantastic arrowheads, the rest of the tribe just might cut me some slack if I'm not good at socially stroking the tribal leaders.


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