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27 May 2014, 8:27 am

I definitely sense a tone in a social situation, anything from party "vibes" to hostility. Like, when I saw Black Sabbath, I got a vibe of awestruck respect from the crowd. There are other times when I get a sense of having transgressed against others without knowing why, and they won't say anything.

Tonight, one of my housemates was really chatty about something I could tell the other housemates were not into whatsoever. Some kind of New Age waffle. I tried to engage with my waffley housemate, but I sensed the other two blocking her out, putting up a wall of indifference through their silence and turning away of their faces. I couldn't understand the modal shift they were exhibiting, but I picked up on the mood and sat back to enjoy a passing moment of silence.

I sense modal shifts in a social context all the time and can't always grasp why the shift occurred. I sense it all as a mysterious vibe and try to go with it if it doesn't conflict with my ethics.

Occasionally I meet someone who I feel great to be around without knowing why. Other times I meet people I know I should stay away from for my own benefit. I feel good or bad, depending on the individual. Usually if I ignore the feeling, I regret it. I've learnt to trust my intuition in this area, its like some process of my brain has calculated it all before my conscious mind does. If anything, the conscious mind gets in the way, rationalising away millions of years of survival-oriented evolution. So I trust my intuitive awareness for my own safety these days.



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27 May 2014, 10:53 am

Stargazer43 wrote:
Sensing vibes is most aspie's greatest weakness


I disagree.

They say a quality of AS is a lack of social empathy, but how do you measure "empathy?"

AS impedes our ability to CORRECTLY respond to a situation...not necessarily the ability to sense the situation.

I can sense if people are happy or sad, calm or upset, but I am overloaded when trying to respond to the situation. I traditionally "clamp down" on the whole deal so I get through it. Funerals are full of emotional energy that is so thick I feel I could literally cut it with a knife, but I don't know what to do other than what I've been taught to do in such situations.



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27 May 2014, 11:03 am

People sense my vibes all the time, which is what really annoys me because I can hold my head up and smile nicely and yet still get ignored or glared at because I still give off the wrong vibes.

I can sense vibes too. That's what mostly attracts me to a man. I can feel sexually attracted to one man who is tall with dark hair, and there could be another man who is tall with dark hair and similar facial features and I wouldn't feel sexually attracted to him at all. It just seems to be the vibe that draws me, although vibes are hard to explain in words.

That is why I find it hard changing my vibes I give off what make people turn away or give me funny looks, no matter how normal I am acting and dressed. I've been told by honest close NT relatives and friends that I have a good posture and that I really have become more confident when I walk than I used to when I was a young teenager, and I know they are right because I have noticed that myself. So I know it's just a vibe I give off that makes me feel ignored.


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27 May 2014, 1:46 pm

I repeatedly read reports from people on this forum saying they dislike making direct eye contact because it is "too intense".

That is an example of "vibes". (Strong emotional feelings provoked by the nonverbal signals or physical proximity of other conscious beings)

It would appear sensing vibes is very common on this forum. Whenever there is a thread about "Why don't you like eye contact?" more than 50% of people invariably say that its "too intense".



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27 May 2014, 5:52 pm

Yes I feel very strong vibes, a lot of the time it is confusing because I sense one thing but people act another way to cover it up. And later I might find out what I felt was right. But in the meantime I believe what they tell me rather than what I feel.



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27 May 2014, 6:25 pm

YES! Ever-since childhood.



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27 May 2014, 7:17 pm

Alla wrote:
I know an aspie male in his early 40s who seems to have gut reactions to people, whether they are nice, mean, etc. He says he senses vibes and or energy and when their vibes shift, he can pick it up easily.


I pick up vibes if i notice a pattern. Many things can skewe perception so its good to question your gut 'reaction'.



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28 May 2014, 10:19 am

"sixth-sense" and stuff seem to be very common in autistics.
we can call it "energy" or "vibes" or whatever but this is not something mytical or supernatural. It is our brains at work.
in my case I feel what others are feeling, yeah. I'd say pretty tough. I also have negative or positive sensations and sensations that are probably feelings but I don't know how to interpret them. It can be very overwhelming.

Stargazer43 wrote:
Sensing vibes is most aspie's greatest weakness

I liked this quote, sounded epic. For me it is completely true.



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28 May 2014, 10:23 am

foxfield wrote:
I repeatedly read reports from people on this forum saying they dislike making direct eye contact because it is "too intense".

That is an example of "vibes". (Strong emotional feelings provoked by the nonverbal signals or physical proximity of other conscious beings)

It would appear sensing vibes is very common on this forum. Whenever there is a thread about "Why don't you like eye contact?" more than 50% of people invariably say that its "too intense".

yep!
and there are other connections too, like many aspies being highly-sensitive, more than 70% being introvert intuitive in the mbti type, the intense world theory, hyperempathy being one of the common traits noticed by Marshall etc
so many things fit in that sense! About the autistic experience being an overwhelming experience.
of course there is a lot to research on that matter.



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28 May 2014, 3:04 pm

JakeDay wrote:
I sense modal shifts in a social context all the time and can't always grasp why the shift occurred. I sense it all as a mysterious vibe and try to go with it if it doesn't conflict with my ethics.

Occasionally I meet someone who I feel great to be around without knowing why. Other times I meet people I know I should stay away from for my own benefit. I feel good or bad, depending on the individual. Usually if I ignore the feeling, I regret it. I've learnt to trust my intuition in this area, its like some process of my brain has calculated it all before my conscious mind does. If anything, the conscious mind gets in the way, rationalising away millions of years of survival-oriented evolution. So I trust my intuitive awareness for my own safety these days.


Same for me.

I get strong first impressions of people, and those always turn out to be true in the long run even if I can't really explain a reason for it in the beginning.



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28 May 2014, 8:46 pm

Stargazer43 wrote:
Sensing vibes is most aspie's greatest weakness


I don't know about that, there have been situations I was glad I was sensitive to the vibes...its the times when I ignore it like if I get a bad vibe from someone and ignore it because I don't want to be judgemental that I regret having not listened to the vibe. Also it helps with not being able to get snuck up on very easily though some people can block their vibes and so I don't feel that they are there but usually I know if someones coming up behind me and who it is. But it can be a weakness in the sense it's confusing like sometimes I might think someone is mad at me when its nothing to do with me and they're mad/bothered by something else.


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06 Sep 2014, 10:23 am

This is the most profound thing that is impacting my life. I believe in this issue lie all the problems related to my asperger's. It has the possibility to be the most crippling affliction imaginable and yet at the same time it offers countless possibilities.

The key thing here is to find ways to shield oneself from negative/hostile emotions while remaining open for positive emotions. The possibilities are ultimately endless. Knowing how other's feel really inside can be very advantageous for oneself.

The hard part here is to actually listen to these vibes. Because so often I end up lost in my own head thinking about my own insecurities and problems so that I only realize that I was feeling a vibe after the situation has passed.

Learning to meditate and especially learning to practice mindfullness which to me means simply observing other people's behaviour and emotions without judging or intellectualizing my own response to those observations has been a key thing in unlocking this ability. What I mean that I simply try to allow others feel as they feel and just let the feelings that arise as a response to their feelings to simply pass, feeling those emotions without judging them, with equanimity.

I think the reason why a lot of aspies miss social cues is not a lack of ability, but that the ability is so heightened that it causes a lot of emotional turmoil inside the individual. And this turmoil is heightened further by the NT way of concealing real emotions with fake ones and generally using language as a tool of deception and manipulation. So what happens is a lot of confusion inside an aspie's mind. We are reading one thing through our "vibe detector" and then being told a lie. And since the vast majority of the population are NTs we don't get to experience much what it feels like when the emotions, the body language and the words of a person are in synch.

I have sensed many private things about other people which have turned out to be right. Besides it all makes sense. If someone has a major problem in his/her life it is going to show through in this person's body language, gestures, facial expressions, word selection etc. No matter how much they try to conceal it, small cracks will appear in that facade and they are visible for the extremely perceptive.

Now the real challenge is to come out of your head and to start observing and listening to what your vibe detector is telling you. Of course some people find no motivation in doing this, and probably would rather not have this ability. Therefore, they end up spending the majority of their time alone with their special interests. I have done it in the past when I had zero understanding what was going on.



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06 Sep 2014, 10:45 am

I'm not sure I feel vibes, but I can tell the mood in a crowed room or on different days. If it is nice out people seem happy. If it is hot or stormy out people are tired and depressed. If people are in a rush they are mean. Such as Black Friday, Christmas time. Individual people I have a harder time distinguishing. Someone might be smiling but there mad.


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06 Sep 2014, 11:04 am

Illogical hippies, all I see are illogical hippies.



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06 Sep 2014, 11:06 am

Yeah I most certainly do.


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06 Sep 2014, 11:37 am

Alla wrote:
I know an aspie male in his early 40s who seems to have gut reactions to people, whether they are nice, mean, etc. He says he senses vibes and or energy and when their vibes shift, he can pick it up easily.

Do aspies actually feel their way into relationships with people, be they friendships or romances? Is it someone's vibe that attracts you rather than the things they say?

i definatly do.