Nevly diagnosed and they want me to take an IQ test

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futteral
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28 Jun 2014, 11:00 am

Hi
I am so worried and don't want to do it poor on the wais iv. Can anyone help me finding some information so I know what I am going to. I can almost find nothing on the internet.

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28 Jun 2014, 11:08 am

There aren't really any consequences to doing poor on it. It is just a measure of your intelligence.



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28 Jun 2014, 12:06 pm

wowiexist wrote:
There aren't really any consequences to doing poor on it. It is just a measure of your intelligence.


And it's arguably pretty rubbish at that anyway.



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28 Jun 2014, 12:46 pm

Alyosha wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
There aren't really any consequences to doing poor on it. It is just a measure of your intelligence.


And it's arguably pretty rubbish at that anyway.

the WAIS isnt that bad, it helps people to see the cognitive inteligence [performance iq] versus verbal inteligence [verbal iq] seperately and if there is any differences, many people on the high functioning spectrum have a difference between vIQ and pIQ though aspies and hf classic autists tend to differ on which one is weakest [aspies=higher verbal iq,hf auties= higher performance iq].
those of us on the low functioning spectrum have both equaly equal low vIQ and pIQ [plus we have also had a functioning assessment as well which is what diagnoses ID].

having a iq test doesnt change anything about a person,it doesnt determine smarts or the worth or quality of a person,
most of us with ID have smarts,IQ is what people make it-if they want to see it as a limitation of themselves then thats their issue,dont see borders or boundaries to life based on tests and will do fine.


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28 Jun 2014, 5:36 pm

I just take them with a grain of salt. I do the best I can on them, though I still take them with a grain of salt.


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28 Jun 2014, 5:42 pm

Well, thx, but still no response relevant to the question :cry:



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28 Jun 2014, 6:03 pm

You can´t find anything on the net, and there is a reason why. If you knew too much about the test beforehand, you would be able to find some equevalents on the net to train, and the Wais wouldn´t give a true picture.
The WAIS is a collection of small tests of different nature. It can take from one session to several. Just take it easy. You´ll do fine.


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28 Jun 2014, 7:30 pm

The WAIS is made up of verbal and nonverbal sub-components, and you will be given a verbal score, and a nonverbal score, and those two will be combined in some fashion to produce your full-scale IQ, FSIQ. Verbal components consist of word problems and similar auditory-only (no paper) tests. Nonverbal components involve mostly puzzles and matching images to one another. I'm surprised they want you to take an IQ test after you've already been diagnosed; I took one as part of the diagnostic process. Regardless of how it turns out, it really says more about your nerves and attention span on the day you took it than your overall intelligence. Don't be surprised if you see a wide gap between your verbal and nonverbal scores; it's common in autistics. Most NTs have scores within a few points of one another, but aspies can be all over the place. There's a 40-point gap between my nonverbal score at 94 and my verbal score at 134. My overall IQ is 111, which is less than I'm happy with, but we can't all be geniuses :)


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28 Jun 2014, 8:42 pm

I looked around a bit and found this. Maybe it will help you some, although I think they have a variety of tests they can add or remove if they want to. http://musingsofanaspie.com/2013/03/09/ ... the-tests/

I took an IQ test as part of my evaluation and it wasn't bad at all. I found out that my verbal IQ is very high and my performance IQ is low. The whole thing was more interesting than stressful, which surprised me because I thought it was going to be really nerve-wracking before I went in. Try not to stress out too much. Best of luck to you! :D



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28 Jun 2014, 9:34 pm

I just had my IQ evaluated and I ended up with 98 for non-verbal, 120 verbal.....110 overall IQ. I was very disappointed, but it's what they came up with!


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29 Jun 2014, 2:40 am

I lost some points because I was nervous. The psychologist said that. I blocked and stiffened in one type of task and used wrong tactics in another.
After I have been doing a lot of testing on the net and come to know different types of tasks, I don´t startle by the sight of one and my points have risen.
If you are very stressed about it, you could train the situation by doing "for fun" tests on the net. Play with it.


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29 Jun 2014, 8:42 am

KingdomOfRats wrote:
Alyosha wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
There aren't really any consequences to doing poor on it. It is just a measure of your intelligence.


And it's arguably pretty rubbish at that anyway.

the WAIS isnt that bad, it helps people to see the cognitive inteligence [performance iq] versus verbal inteligence [verbal iq] seperately and if there is any differences, many people on the high functioning spectrum have a difference between vIQ and pIQ though aspies and hf classic autists tend to differ on which one is weakest [aspies=higher verbal iq,hf auties= higher performance iq].
those of us on the low functioning spectrum have both equaly equal low vIQ and pIQ [plus we have also had a functioning assessment as well which is what diagnoses ID].

having a iq test doesnt change anything about a person,it doesnt determine smarts or the worth or quality of a person,
most of us with ID have smarts,IQ is what people make it-if they want to see it as a limitation of themselves then thats their issue,dont see borders or boundaries to life based on tests and will do fine.


I just have a problem with what they're defining 'intelligence' as, and overall the concept of intelligence has been used against me in a lot of ways in my life so I'm a bit biased against it.

Also it's not always as clear cut as all that, I mean I scored an iq of 55, and my functioning doesn't hold up to well (I'm 20 and i still can't dress myself or get myself fed or anything they except even an 8 year old to do in regards to that side of functioning), but im at uni (i need someone to take me and bring me back because i cant get there safely by myself) and i get good grades there. is that intelligence or smarts? Am i low functioning or high? and what does that even mean anyway?

Plus lots of other things affect how you score on those tests as well. like poor people do no perform as well on these tests and neither do some ethnic groups even when they have the similar academic performance (and i generally think if iq is assessing any kind of smart, it's school smart). as kids who are rich and white.

i think a saw someone on another thread a bit about this saying saying you have a high iq is like saying you got an A in algebra not like saying you're 5 feet tall it's a score not a trait. so i guess that also works because to get an a in algebra you have to know what the format of a test is and you have to know algebra and you have to be able to read the work book. basically you need to know a lot of stuff before you can know algebra. i think that's probably true for these tests as well. you have to know a lot of stuff before you can know how to approach these iq tests.

but to the op, i would try not to stress to much about it, but if you can't help it be sure to look after yourself when youves finished your test. buy yourself some food you like or do some activity you like. its important to destress after these things. :)



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29 Jun 2014, 9:29 am

Here in DK, we have an enormously gifted, famous professor in theoretical high energy physics. He has written and given lectures on his very original and advanced theories for many years.
He can hardly button his shirt.


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30 Jun 2014, 9:32 pm

futteral wrote:
I am so worried and don't want to do it poor on the wais iv. Can anyone help me finding some information so I know what I am going to. I can almost find nothing on the internet.


They proposed it to me, and I refused. It can be good for the ego, or it can be bad. But I don't think the test only measure intelligence. With the first tests, whatever the tests measured, they decided it was intelligence, because intelligence is what they wanted to measure with their tests. The WAIS IV is better I think, but I don't think it only measure intelligence. It indicate where you are, compared to others who did the test.
If you don't supply the effort, the IQ may not reflect the IQ you would get if you applied yourself. But if you supply too many efforts, you may miss some answers you would get right otherwise. The test result doesn't only give a score, but also can indicate your strenghs and weaknesses. So if you don't know if your memory is good, or your problem-solving skills, the result can help to better know yourself.
It's a test, not an exam. You cannot fail it. But if you do not give the rights answers, you IQ will be lower.

You will not find much informations on the WAIS IV on the internet, because the test is copyrighted.



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30 Jun 2014, 11:01 pm

Of course it is in my records, but I made it quite clear that I refused to hear the iq test results. You can do that as well.



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30 Jun 2014, 11:28 pm

I have two rules pertaining to IQ tests that I'd like to share.

1: Never take them seriously.
2: Or sober.

Perhaps those of you that worry about IQ tests might like to adopt my second rule, and let the first rule just... happen :wink:


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