Self diagnosed people here don't have aspergers

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I am thinking of the fact that there is social interaction that is basically unhealthy. Contact with bullies is the first that comes to mind. There is also interaction with toxic people and friends who aren't particularly good for you.

NTs can't represent Aspergians, just like men can't represent women, whites can't represent blacks, muslims can't represent jews. NTs cannot represent aspies.

This thread is kind of uncomfortable to me, it sounds like a Clique, which I hate a lot about NTs.

Let's see I am not 100% sure if I have AS or not, I well might have another pervasive development disorder I am not really sure. But there are some characteristics I share with aspies here which make me think I might be positive. There must be an explanation, or am I just a loser who deserves to be bullied and teased for being a moron or a ret*d? could it be?

When I found out about AS on the web I just felt better to find something that could fits me, that could explain many things. I know that I don't have all the characteristics, I have some of them, a few are mild and others characteristics I just don't have them. I feel more related to people here on WP than with regular NTs. Even before I knew about the existence of AS and having a stereotype knowledge about autism, I thought of myself having some kind of "disability".

This is one of the best threads on the site, in my opinion. I read the posts of HolidayonIce, Rain-Bird,
ZanneMarie and so many others almost in tears. I'm not the only one. I'm not the only one. We've all been living as aliens - adapting to a world of people so different from us, but they are the overwhelmingly dominant culture so we had better learn to speak their language. Yet we have our minds. Oh my, if we didn't have the ability to think logically when living in a foreign land, we'd be toast.

There's something fundamental about humans, it seems to me, that we divide groups into categories and attach values to the categories. There is ALWAYS a subgroup that belongs (our group) and at least one subgroup that does NOT belong. We know how it feels not to belong. It feels bad.

With something as uncertain as a formal diagnosis of adult AS, why be concerned with who belongs and who does not? Does it matter? To me it matters not at all that someone thinks they may have AS/Autism and comes here to check it out. Smart. Welcome. If you find over time that, no, this isn't it, hey - take care.

Some of what is written about us is incorrect, because they don't know that much about us and there are some differences among us too. Garbage about we don't have emotions for example. Many of us do. Just not the identical set. And we can learn to figure out 'theory of mind' thank you, enough to get by. We aren't stupid. The carrots NTs go for just aren't our native favorites. Money, status, power - the big head trip. Give me truth, justice, receptive to everyone - that means animals too. We have a way of seeing through much of the BS going on around us because we are so literally out of it. So we can make it a little better.

I don't want to jump into this. My brief opinion: The initial post struck me as flawed. Many, and indeed quite possibly most of the undiagnosed members of the board are probably diagnosable. Some simply haven't had the time, or the resources to get a diagnoses. Others are dealing with anxiety issues that are inherent to their condition.

However, that said, I do feel that it is possible for someone, especially for someone with a history of difficulties in life, to cling onto something they find something that explains those difficulties. This is more the case, and I understand this is controversial, when it is widely felt by many that such a (unconfirmed) explanation confirms or perhaps brings forth feelings of victimhood that relieves past trauma. It is reasonable to conclude that the prospect of disproving these former findings, however remote, especially for someone who may very well be psychologically atypical, could very well cause one to be less likely to attempt to find comfimation. If, in addition, one did not have Asperger's syndrome, it could prove difficult to move on from such a "revelation."

Looking at your replies it seems that some people are very angry at what I wrote. I felt like I needed to explain why I wrote it.

I came to this site expecting to see people discussing the problems they face and ways that they deal with it. There is a fair amount of this. But instead, I found a lot of this "aspie pride" BS and people who would rather tell themselves that the world "doesn't get them" and not even make an effort to overcome it.

I'm not going to do this. Life without people is boring. Just because I have some problems with talking to people does not mean I don't enjoy doing it. Yes, I am probably more intelligent because of aspergers. Still the obsessive behaviors aspergers gives me stops me from accomplishing anything that matters. (like homework) If there was a cure I would swallow it, inject it, or shove it up my ass in a second. The negative effects aspergers adds to my life is far greater than the extra IQ points I recieve from it.

So few people are actually taking about how to deal with aspergers and instead complain about the problems they have while never trying to fix them. It then occurred to me that the some of the self diagnosed people are loners to identify themselves with a label. That is why I made this post.

I find it funny that some people think a person who specializes in neurological disorders would be unfit to diagnose them. I'm not going to argue this. If it is a financial problem that stops you from being diagnosed, then that is fine. But if you not want to be diagnosed because you are afraid you will be told that you do not have aspergers, then you have a problem.

The reverse could also be true. I wonder how many people are diagnosed with Aspergers who don't actually have it? The process seems so subjective - who can tell what the truth is? Self-diagnosis or official diagnosis - the chance for error is immense.