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25 Oct 2014, 9:32 am

I don't.

Once I forget to put "se" before a verb and I added it as a suffix. This corresponds to an archaic version of spanish.



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25 Oct 2014, 11:14 am

Forsooth I never speaketh in the manor of mine forefathers!

I mean- I don't talk archaic.



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25 Oct 2014, 12:09 pm

Jensen wrote:
... I could say things like: "Mom, I do not comprehend the words of these men" (meaning Dad and Uncle) instead of just saying: "Mom, what are they talking about?"


That sounds like the way I talk sometimes. :lol: I think I did it more as a child/teenager than I do now.

It comes automatically. Sometimes I have to stop myself before I say something really wordy, and think about phrasing it a simpler way.



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25 Oct 2014, 1:52 pm

I've done it all my life, off-and-on----I told somebody, recently: "I shall take my leave, then"! !! LOL It just comes automatically, sometimes----'course it doesn't help that I watch alot of British TV, either. I'm like someone else said: that Aspies are like tape recorders (or, something like that); meaning, I guess, that we record everything we hear, and regurgitate at a time that it doesn't make much sense, or is inappropriate, or whatever. That's why I never made fun of Madonna when she started sounding British because I experienced the same thing after living over there a couple of years.

The other thing is that I write in what now would be considered "Old English", I guess. When I was learning English, grammar, etc. in school, "alot", for instance was ONE word----as was "thankyou" (as a salutation: "Thankyou for going to the store for me"), and lots of other stuff. I guess old habits die hard; but, to ME, I see it as Americans MURDERING the English language, and I DON'T LIKE IT!! ! Don't get me wrong, I can speak slang, with the best of them----even on this site, there are forums where I will speak more casually----but, if I'm having a "serious" conversation, I won't use it, or, at least, very minimally.



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25 Oct 2014, 4:01 pm

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Why not talk in a manner that people will understand?


Perhaps just being another efficient copying machine of others doesn't feel intuitively right.



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25 Oct 2014, 5:51 pm

Speaking many languages it does happens sometimes where I'll use an older word or a word less known that means the same thing.
When I'm speaking French I speak in a very simplistic way, but I will once in a while use an older or more complicated word.
When speaking in English I usually speak normally but often I'll just speak in old English a using Shakespearean quotes and sentences I remembered from reading all of Shakespeare works, and I use them to say the exact same thing I would in modern English.


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25 Oct 2014, 6:37 pm

olympiadis wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Why not talk in a manner that people will understand?


Perhaps just being another efficient copying machine of others doesn't feel intuitively right.


No, you're thinking of echolalia.


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25 Oct 2014, 6:50 pm

I am uncomfortable using contractions both in speech and writing. I will often write something then go back and put contractions in afterwards because I think it sounds too formal without the use of contractions - like I would normally change 'I am' to 'I'm' after writing this.


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25 Oct 2014, 7:07 pm

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I read the bible a lot when I was young, and I fell in love with the incredible efficiency of the Old English.
Those sentences are tightly packed with information.

I used to use them a lot, but I don't use them as much these days. I still like to confuse people on occasion, but I do it on purpose :). Frank Herbert taught me a good many great words too. He's been a big influence on my language.


Frank Herbert, hell yeah! I must have read his books hundreds of times by now.


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25 Oct 2014, 7:13 pm

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Forsooth I never speaketh in the manor of mine forefathers!

I mean- I don't talk archaic.


Hahahaha, no offense but that wasn't even proper grammar and it sounds stilted. Apparently you don't speak archaic. Don't know about some of you guys but it actually bugs me on an impulsive level when people try to talk archaic and they construct a sentence way different from the way people used to. As in: "He doth do this" as opposed to "doth not he satisfy this".


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25 Oct 2014, 11:36 pm

In English, I do use archaic language, as well as words that have fallen out of contemporary use. This is almost exclusively in writing or blogging, however. When speaking, I lean towards an unusually formal speech pattern, but usually without the presence of archaic language.

I have taken interest in the plethora of Chinese characters now in disuse, and-after countless hours on Unicode character charts-have created my own Chinese writing system incorporating these characters along with traditional Chinese characters in use today.



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25 Oct 2014, 11:48 pm

http://youtu.be/vJhq9eq_eJg
I remember my brother telling me "That sounds just like you!"

That was during the original screening of this sketch in 1972.

LOL!! !!



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26 Oct 2014, 4:49 am

Language changes over time.

As Campin_Cat finds, what we learn as youngsters gradually becomes dated, and some words and phrases either change meaning or even fall out of use. For those who read old books, not only are there archaic terms, but old spellings and old letter formal such as the older English long 's' that looks like an 'f' though with the crossbar only going half way, or the use of 'i' instead of 'j' in the same way that ancient Romans used 'v' where we use 'u'. I particularly like the old diverse spelling 'divers', which of course would not have a long 's' as that is the last letter of the word.

I'm not a fan of txt spk (lol), but that is just one more example of how language evolves. One day, that we be old hat.



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27 Oct 2014, 10:18 am

I don't use Shakespearean language--but language which is outdated by 20-30 years or so. They wouldn't be considered archaic by a dictionary--but they're passé in a "popular-culture" sense.

I still use words like "bummer," "hip," and "square." "Bummer" became popular in the 1960s, but became passé by the 80's. "hip" and "square" became popular circa 30's-40's, but became passé by the 80's.

When I feel romantic, I might lapse into 17th-18th-19th century-type English.



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27 Oct 2014, 12:10 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't use Shakespearean language--but language which is outdated by 20-30 years or so. They wouldn't be considered archaic by a dictionary--but they're passé in a "popular-culture" sense.

I still use words like "bummer," "hip," and "square." "Bummer" became popular in the 1960s, but became passé by the 80's. "hip" and "square" became popular circa 30's-40's, but became passé by the 80's.

When I feel romantic, I might lapse into 17th-18th-19th century-type English.


Yup. Age pretty much defaults you into using language this way. I recently discovered that the word "basic" has taken on a judgemental undertone (at least in the U.S.) that just didn't apply when it entered my vocabulary 40 or so years ago. My use of it probably sounds either archaic or insulting to young ears (but not to middle age ears, thank goodness). I picked up words from people around me rather than old books but given enough time, that sounds archaic too. In another 40 years I will be very elderly (if I live that long) and will probably sound archaic by the dictionary definition but hopefully also as quaint as the very elderly sound to me today.



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27 Oct 2014, 4:27 pm

Not really. I tend to simplify my language a good deal. Making myself clearly understood is the quickest and safest way to get through a conversation and move on. Even then, I sound a lot stiffer and more formal than most people I know because my speech is rather monotonous.


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