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JSBACHlover
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24 Feb 2014, 1:08 am

Hi! :nerdy:



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24 Feb 2014, 11:54 pm

Hi yourself, JSBACHlover :). Thank you for the warm welcome, & hope your day was great - (Beethoven lover here, but please don't hold that against me! lol). I love all types of classical music (pianist)...Bach, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Mozart, Vivaldi, etc., etc., do you play an instrument?



22 May 2014, 11:14 pm

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Highly gifted individuals typically have what are called 'over-excitabilities'. Over-excitabilities are specific, inborn intensities that cause the individual to have a heightened response to certain stimuli (i.e. intellectual, emotional, imaginational, psychomotor).



Hello,

I was just wondering after reading this, is it actually possible that NT's are actually just "underexcitable?" I was thinking about this and I'm not sure why the term would go this way. It seems to me that we would want to give the negative connotation to those who under-perform?



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27 Oct 2014, 2:01 am

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Individuals who are labeled with Asperger's Syndrome must, by definition, have an average to above-average intelligence level.


This is exactly what I am talking about; where is the proof for this claim! I know for a fact that this is fallacious. My ex partner works with aspergers kids, who by the way all have IQ's below 70


Umm, I think he just presented proof, it's just harder to understand because of the intellectual words.

But anyway. It is often agreed upon that the average aspie is more intelligent than the average NT. But this intelligence is not universal. One example of the areas we are less intelligent in is social learning. I myself have met Aspies who seem to be less intelligent than others. But we must also remember that IQ is general. We, as aspies, have a tendency to obsess over highly specific subjects. This implies that, in those areas we are more intelligent.

Personally I have found no proof to this claim. I have noticed that I am more intelligent than most of the people in my class, but this may just be that I am more intellectually inclined, in that I favour the more intellectual side of things.

Basically what I'm trying to say is: people with Aspergers (due to what I have seen and researched) are generally more intelligent that the average NT. But there are exceptions, as one Aspie might also have an intellectual disability, or perhaps a brain injury.

I can also assure you that I'm not just saying these things, I have researched this matter and I used logic to come to these conclusions.

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I do admire your quest for proof though javascript:emoticon(':D')



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27 Oct 2014, 2:03 am

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The diagnostic criteria for Aspergers is an IQ above 70. Statistically by excluding people on the lower end of a scale for Asperger diagnosis the average intelligence of Aspies will be above the average of the general population. Psychologists acting on the stereotype that only people with above average intelligence can have aspergers may not diagnose people with average intelligence. People with average intelligence and all the problems of aspergers are probably less likely to have the wherewithal and the means to get to a specialist those those with above average intelligence.

True. Some diagnostic centers would disagree (or would have disagreed in the past before DSM 5 came out) due to the well-known diagnostic confuse within the autism spectrum, the very reason it has been merged into a single ASD diagnosis. Nevertheless, the majority of them would have specified the above IQ limit for an AS diagnosis (>70). Below that they had two options: autism and PDD-NOS (apart from fragile-X, Rett's syndrome, and other rare diagnoses).

The diagnostic criteria of Asperger's in the DSM-IV says:

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E.There is no clinically significant delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self-help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction), and curiosity about the environment in childhood.


Actually, I happen to know two persons IRL with AS diagnosis with IQs (as measured by a diagnostic center) only slightly above 70, and here I am with an IQ score in the superior range and yet my diagnosis is the marginally known PDD-NOS.

Intelligence is much more than IQ scores. Even if we included EQ as measured by scientifically approved tests - and I can tell by experience how emulating all those complex functions in everyday life taxes my ability to function - we'd very likely miss out on identifying brain powers, let alone measuring them.

(I don't like IQ elitism, anyway.)


Also I agree with this guy ^^^ he is smartish



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27 Oct 2014, 2:10 am

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New member here (NT, or so I'm told)...arrived @ this site in the course of research/info gathering. I'm going to start hanging out here more - you guys are hysterical - seriously. I almost experienced terminal bladder malfunction after reading a couple of these posts (Firebird's and the oooOOOooooOOOOoooo guy, among others). Some of you missed your calling - you should put pen to page, don the sunglasses, and embark on the standup comedy circuits - and that is sincerely meant :). I've laughed more in the last 20 min than I can remember...I look forward to making new friends here! Peace out & best wishes for a great week for all...just call me 'Lefty' :wink:


Hey leftie. Not having a go at you or anything, but some people could find that a bit offensive. You see, we aspies are very different from NTs and what we have been talking about is actually quite normal. Many of us our bullied because they find how we work amusing, also because we're simply different.

But I do recognise your point of view (My current aspie obsession is aspie and NT interactions). We do seem very weird and sometimes comical, but just be careful when you say that because it can hurt people.

May your works be fruitful Leftie, Cya.



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27 Oct 2014, 2:46 am

Here's a curveball:

You must have an IQ above 70 to be considered as having Asperger's.

But you must also have an IQ above 70 to be considered NT.

If you have an IQ below 70, you're learning disabled, and thus do not possess a relatively typical neurology.

The social definition of 'neurotypical' ignores this, however.


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27 Oct 2014, 10:57 am

In a previous post, I jest' that I had an IQ of 1024. For anyone who doesn't know, in the world of computers, 1024 is the magic number.

Memory is usually measured in the megabyte (1024 kilobytes)

My IQ is supposed to be 167 but I place little stock in that!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! ! because I can be dumb as an ox at times!! !!


Go figure!! !


(too many exclamation marks, I know. I dunno. Ilove 'em :)

I do however have an Eidetic memory. I see things from memory in still shots.


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