Aspergers and above average IQ
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Hello,
I was just wondering after reading this, is it actually possible that NT's are actually just "underexcitable?" I was thinking about this and I'm not sure why the term would go this way. It seems to me that we would want to give the negative connotation to those who under-perform?
This is exactly what I am talking about; where is the proof for this claim! I know for a fact that this is fallacious. My ex partner works with aspergers kids, who by the way all have IQ's below 70
Umm, I think he just presented proof, it's just harder to understand because of the intellectual words.
But anyway. It is often agreed upon that the average aspie is more intelligent than the average NT. But this intelligence is not universal. One example of the areas we are less intelligent in is social learning. I myself have met Aspies who seem to be less intelligent than others. But we must also remember that IQ is general. We, as aspies, have a tendency to obsess over highly specific subjects. This implies that, in those areas we are more intelligent.
Personally I have found no proof to this claim. I have noticed that I am more intelligent than most of the people in my class, but this may just be that I am more intellectually inclined, in that I favour the more intellectual side of things.
Basically what I'm trying to say is: people with Aspergers (due to what I have seen and researched) are generally more intelligent that the average NT. But there are exceptions, as one Aspie might also have an intellectual disability, or perhaps a brain injury.
I can also assure you that I'm not just saying these things, I have researched this matter and I used logic to come to these conclusions.
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I do admire your quest for proof though javascript:emoticon(':D')
True. Some diagnostic centers would disagree (or would have disagreed in the past before DSM 5 came out) due to the well-known diagnostic confuse within the autism spectrum, the very reason it has been merged into a single ASD diagnosis. Nevertheless, the majority of them would have specified the above IQ limit for an AS diagnosis (>70). Below that they had two options: autism and PDD-NOS (apart from fragile-X, Rett's syndrome, and other rare diagnoses).
The diagnostic criteria of Asperger's in the DSM-IV says:
Actually, I happen to know two persons IRL with AS diagnosis with IQs (as measured by a diagnostic center) only slightly above 70, and here I am with an IQ score in the superior range and yet my diagnosis is the marginally known PDD-NOS.
Intelligence is much more than IQ scores. Even if we included EQ as measured by scientifically approved tests - and I can tell by experience how emulating all those complex functions in everyday life taxes my ability to function - we'd very likely miss out on identifying brain powers, let alone measuring them.
(I don't like IQ elitism, anyway.)
Also I agree with this guy ^^^ he is smartish
Hey leftie. Not having a go at you or anything, but some people could find that a bit offensive. You see, we aspies are very different from NTs and what we have been talking about is actually quite normal. Many of us our bullied because they find how we work amusing, also because we're simply different.
But I do recognise your point of view (My current aspie obsession is aspie and NT interactions). We do seem very weird and sometimes comical, but just be careful when you say that because it can hurt people.
May your works be fruitful Leftie, Cya.
Here's a curveball:
You must have an IQ above 70 to be considered as having Asperger's.
But you must also have an IQ above 70 to be considered NT.
If you have an IQ below 70, you're learning disabled, and thus do not possess a relatively typical neurology.
The social definition of 'neurotypical' ignores this, however.
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In a previous post, I jest' that I had an IQ of 1024. For anyone who doesn't know, in the world of computers, 1024 is the magic number.
Memory is usually measured in the megabyte (1024 kilobytes)
My IQ is supposed to be 167 but I place little stock in that!! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! ! because I can be dumb as an ox at times!! !!
Go figure!! !
(too many exclamation marks, I know. I dunno. Ilove 'em
I do however have an Eidetic memory. I see things from memory in still shots.
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