What were the 1970s and 1982 like?
my goodness, you reminded me of the 1984 Talking Heads movie concert - Stop Making Sense - I just had to look it up and found that I could watch in on amazon.com - instant video online streaming for 99cents.
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my goodness, you reminded me of the 1984 Talking Heads movie concert - Stop Making Sense - I just had to look it up and found that I could watch in on amazon.com - instant video online streaming for 99cents.
Fabulous music for the neurodiverse
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IXXTXQI/ref ... _TE_M1T1WN
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"Everyone is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."
- Albert Einstein
1982 was a very significant year for me and one of just a few that have a special place in my own history. But I wonder what area you are interested in specifically. Is it the pop culture or more the political/world environment?
The 70's do seem like a long time ago. Besides the plain distance of time, some of the attitudes and beliefs never left that decade so to speak. 1982 seems less old to me, perhaps because some of what it was like, the thinking, still exists. It may not be reliable however because so much depends on the indivduals perceptions.
Ah, I was interested in the pop culture. I should have specified.
Lots of responses to my question. I'm a little overwhelmed.
Lots of responses to my question. I'm a little overwhelmed.
Better to have too many responses then to little at least. But yes, bring a lunch, and maybe a sleeping bag whenever you ask older people to tell you about the old days.
If you wanted more info, maybe you could ask narrower questions on specific aspects in separate threads. For example '70's Kids: What kind of clothes were people wearing when you where in High School?' etc.
Pop culture is definitely easier as all you have to do is remember what you were exposed to. There is some interrelation between the current events and Pop culture of course.
Btw, what was it about '82 that caught your interest?
It was so confusing for me. Ugliest girl in school suddenly is considered a hottie [foxy back then] because of a little paint on the face and no longer wearing x large mens t-shirts. It made me see how skewed most peoples priorities are.
The second half, married with children. And I was incredulous that I had been given the opportunity to have children and give them the love I had never received. They were [are] my number one obsession.
We were very poor [husband drank and gambled paychecks] I could not understand that this was less than ideal for my children because my family of origen literally tortured me every day. [they are still monsters] I read all of the time as a little girl and I read so many stories where the characters were "poor but happy." I got it into my head that the extreme abuse I had encountred as a child was because of my familys' wealth and that poverty was a way out [ I know]
I had also read alot about communes and dreamed of living in one. We did not live in a commune but lived in a cabin with no running water [pump outside] and an outhouse. I baked my own bread, gardened, and cooked the meat my husband shot. I traded vegetables from the garden and huckleberries [from everywhere] for honey and fresh milk. I played with my kids all day and thought that my life was perfect.
1982. That was when I realized that kids needed clothes that were better than just clean and mended , that when a little girl wanted a cabbage patch kid that a homemade doll wouldn't hack it, that kids preferred processed twinkies to homemade cookies, and that playing in the creek, making crafts, and reading were not sufficient as entertainment.That love was NOT all you need.The "non materialist" era had passed years before and I had not even realized it.
My husband and I temporarily split up and my kids and I were introduced to a world we had never experienced before. A world of Chuck E. Cheese, the start of punk clothing and music, and wearing what everyone else did. [ and I still couldn't and still cannot understand why that is so important, but it does make the difference between the playboy bunny everyone is in awe of and the ugliest girl in school who is reminded of her ugliness every day
I'm guessing this is not what you were looking for, but, what the hey, I'm going to post it anyway.
Wow, what a story! I hope you're doing well these days.
Speaking of music, some things never change. I used to listen to Tom Waits back then, I'm listening to his latest album (released in 2011!) right now But the Talking Heads mention surely made me nostalgic...
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I remember now what was good about 1982
I lost my virginity.
After school I worked in a mans trade and never got to meet women, but Jan 82 I had a serious motorcycle accident so went into hospital.
Back then the NHS isnt what it is now where they patch you up and send you home the same day, back then they looked after you until you were better.
During that time in hospital one of the nurses would take me back to her room in the nurses home when she finished her shift.
Once I was discharged I started seeing one of the other nurses.
I was a child in the 70s and lived in Northern Ireland. My memories are that people seemed much poorer than they are now. Lots of people didn't have cars, and their houses were furnished very modestly. People couldn't access loans or credit easily. People's houses were more likely to have peeling paint, sash windows, and most didn't have central heating. People ate much more boring/simple food than they do now. It was all about meat, potatoes, vegetables. We didn't have McDonalds or takeaways. The most exciting thing was a 10p lucky bag. But people were also a lot thinner than now and didn't have debt. Kids played out on the streets all the time, so there were always kids outside kicking a football or running around. Also, there were bombs and soldiers on the streets, as it was during the time of the Troubles in Derry.
1982 was a great music year. I got my first radio and spent hours listening to chart music. I still listen to music from that year all the time. I was very worried about nuclear war. My father was very politically active so I heard a lot about Mrs Thatcher, and Ronald Reagan. There seemed to be a lot of unemployment. I lived in northern England at this time, which was a huge change for me, from a warzone where everyone was either Protestant or Catholic, but uniformly white, to a place where most people were recent immigrants or children of immigrants, from India, Pakistan and the Carribean. It was quite exciting to me, as there was a lot of diversity in food and smells and music and religion. The area we lived in though was very rough and poor, and quite violent for kids.
I lost my virginity.
After school I worked in a mans trade and never got to meet women, but Jan 82 I had a serious motorcycle accident so went into hospital.
Back then the NHS isnt what it is now where they patch you up and send you home the same day, back then they looked after you until you were better.
During that time in hospital one of the nurses would take me back to her room in the nurses home when she finished her shift.
Once I was discharged I started seeing one of the other nurses.
Oh wow. Reminds me of some Carry On film LOL Oh Matron!
I lost my virginity.
After school I worked in a mans trade and never got to meet women, but Jan 82 I had a serious motorcycle accident so went into hospital.
Back then the NHS isnt what it is now where they patch you up and send you home the same day, back then they looked after you until you were better.
During that time in hospital one of the nurses would take me back to her room in the nurses home when she finished her shift.
Once I was discharged I started seeing one of the other nurses.
Oh wow. Reminds me of some Carry On film LOL Oh Matron!
It was just like a carry on film.
I had to wear the stripy National Health service pajamas, I had no slippers so I wore a single motorbike boot with my pajamas as this nurse would lead me down the corridors to her room.
The nurses home was full of young student nurses coming out of the showers dressed in towels, and here is me grinning like a Champ.
One time I heard the Matron coming so had to run with this nurse so she wouldn't get caught, in my pajamas, single motorcycle boot, on crutches, leg in plaster, running from the Matron, it really was like a Carry on film.
In the end the Staff Nurse told her to stop as the Doctors wanted to know why I was never around when they did their rounds.
Best time of my life that year.
I remember 1982 as the year a whole lot of cracking movies came out: there was Blade Runner, Poltergeist, The Thing, Tron, Wrath of Khan, Conan the Barbarian, The Dark Crystal and ET. Sci Fi and Fantasy movies were my love then and they kept me going through some rotten times - that year was about the worst of the period when I was bullied at school.
It was also about this time that video games arrived in my life in the form of an Atari VCS with Asteroids and Space Invaders. VCRs were gaining popularity and our town had several tape rental stores. One in particular traded openly in pirate copies of movies not yet released in the UK. They didn't care what you rented even if you were under 18. Many happy hours catching up on the back catalogues of George Romero, David Cronenberg, Dario Argento, Lucio Fulci etc followed...
I was still pretty young in the 1970s so what I remember is a bit limited.Both my grandmas were still alive and the were family holidays in Devon and Wales. Also lots of Lego, Cresta soft drinks, Dinky toys, Gerry Anderson TV shows, Hanna Barbera cartoons and Boney M. So, all-round pretty damned awesome!
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The 70's I was a teen and as you can tell by my signature it was mostly as we used to say a ?bummer?. We were baby boomers, I was born in 1957 the height of post war birth explosion but when they speak of boomer culture it is the culture for those born between 1946 and 1954. We were born just a few years to late. By the time we were teens the promise of the 60's gave way to the alienation of cynicism of Watergate and then apathy and directionless. After all of the talk of a new just way of doing things the 60's kids were becoming conformists just as there parents always said they would. We were left with wreckage of the failed experiments of 60's. The sexual revolution gave way to divorce, confusion , vanerial disease. And you could listen to it on Fleetwoods Mac's Rumours album because the band members were going through same wreckage as their audience. Looking back I realize the schools that were the targets of a lot of protests were still in a state of shock by the time we got to high school. There was weird experimental programs, dumbing down of standards and just generally doing what they thought the kids wanted. The bathrooms were for marijuana smoking which started before home room and went on in between classes, the kids could go off campus for more drugs at lunch. In rock music the belief that after Woodstock we are the future gave way to the reality of stupidly of Altamont, the deaths of Janice Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, and Jim Morrison circa 1969-1971. Doing what you want gave way to marketing and loads of money and endless touring with drugs and groupies provided. In the first half of the 70?s their was plenty of excellent ?Classic Rock? to be had but by the end of the decade the music was shell of it?s 60?s self. Just enough Hard Rock guitar for the teenage boys and ballads for the girls, Foreigner, Styx, Boston, Journey nice but boring. And then their was disco. Nowadays it is looked at correctly a watershed in pop music history whose inventions are just essential to how music is made today. And it started by outsiders on independent labels as did punk. That is not what it felt like at the time. The endless repetition of the 4/4 beat from not only the hit records but in commercials etc drove some of us nuts. It was associated with elitism, aimless hedonism, horrible fashion, basically a symbol of everything that was wrong with the ?70?s.
As for being an Aspie of course there was no such thing. The most severely affected Autistics were institutionalized and often misdiagnosed as deaf or if the family could not afford an institution thrown in the street or locked up in an upstairs room. After investigative reporting revealed nightmare conditions in the institutions they were closed and residents thrown into the street. You were bullied which was considered a right of passage, a normal part of growing up, It was just boys being boys. If you did not fight back it was because you were weak, not really a man. You?re were a nerd, painfully shy, loner, oddball etc. Because you had average to high intelligence but poor results everybody and yourself drew the obvious conclusion, you were lazy and weak. While beginning to change there was still a large stigma attach to seeing a professional.
It was in ?79 that it started to change for some of us. The still controversial(see below) Disco Demolition Night riot http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night was the symbolic moment of change. Disco went out and the aforementioned New Wave stated to come in. New Wave and the Punk Rock it came from was an assault on the sell out hippies Groups like The Talking Heads, Devo, Elvis Costello, and Gary Numan( has come out Aspergers) looked acted, and made music that was even more jumpy, quirky and nerdy then me. A lot of it was cynical, which was just like I felt after all the years of bullying. 1979 was the summer first B-52?s record dropped, it showed me you can unobliterated fun in your own weird way and still be popular. .That lesson was still helping me when I got diagnosed last year. 1982 was the year New Wave became mainstream in the States with the Second British Invasion. We got MTV, the video?s made the bands seem more accessible. We had a New Wave radio station WLIR whose slogan was ?Dare to be Different?. Perfect. It was not unlike getting diagnosed in that I found out there are other weirdo?s out there. Unlike the diagnosis some of these people were fundamentally different then me but I still identified with them. I got into computer programing and did get along with my workmates. While the 80?s were the best of times for me as a 20 something the Autistic teens still had it bad. B Being different in any way still got you beat up.
Stave Dahl was the Chicago DJ who organized "Disco Demolition Night" did a parody of "Do You Think I'm Sexy" a disco song made by a rock star "Rod Stewart" who had "sold out" to disco. It reflected the popular negative images associated with disco at the time.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LAApU-QHfI[/youtube]
What I wrote above reflects how I felt about Disco Demolition night at the time. The week of the Disco Demolition there were 6 of the Top10 were disco songs. Two months later there were no disco songs the genre was dead for a long before reemerging as dance and house music. Obviously Disco Demolition night struck a nerve as an anti disco backlash had been building for some time. Because disco music was born out of black and gay subculture modern analysts have ascribed racism and homophobia to the backlash. Others have said the record companies were behind it because they were losing money on disco.
Joe Jackson's "Happy Loving Couples" s a new wave song that could have been written by me at time
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RntN9EfGUvI[/youtube]
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To my mind, the 1970s were the most interesting decade for people in the US, on or off the spectrum. I would say the US experience of the 1970s was unique in certain ways.
When the 1970s began, the US was still involved in the Vietnam War. At that time, young men were conscripted to fight and over 58,000 died (not to mention wounded etc.). By the middle of the decade, the war had ended as a defeat for the US (first ever) and the President had resigned from office (also first ever).
The US spent the remainder of the decade essentially recovering from events at the beginning. During this time, the following was true, at least as I see it:
- Conscription ended and has never been reinstated.
- For a brief period, Capital Punishment was abolished (and then reinstated)
- For a few years, US citizens were allowed completely unrestricted travel to any country that would let them in.
- The military in general fell out of favor and was routinely shown disrespect by the popular media, more or less with impunity.
- Nudity was tolerated on broadcast TV and especially on PBS.
- Although marijuana was never legalized, laws against using it were scarcely enforced in some places. I clearly recall walking up 6th Avenue in Manhattan, past Grant Park, and seeing office workers there buying and smoking joints on their lunch break, in broad daylight. I think a few jurisdictions did decriminalize it.
- Young women generally only wore bras if they really needed them. It was often quite obvious when they didn't.
- Meanwhile the Soviet Union reached a high-water mark of its global influence, even making significant inroads in Western Europe (I believe Portugal had a pro-Soviet government for a short time and the government that succeeded the Papadopoulos regime in Greece was very Moscow-friendly at least unofficially).
This was a very unusual period in US history which ended quite abruptly in 1981, with Reagan's inauguration, or possibly the unsuccessful assassination attempt against him a short time later.