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munty13
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29 Dec 2009, 2:54 pm

Anybody here ever heard of a link between pyloric stenosis and AS?



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29 Dec 2009, 2:57 pm

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Anybody here ever heard of a link between pyloric stenosis and AS?


It does not sound reasonable. What does a thickening of the pyloric muscles have to do with the way one's brain and mind function?

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29 Dec 2009, 3:35 pm

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What does a thickening of the pyloric muscles have to do with the way one's brain and mind function?


Hi ruveyn. I'm not sure. I've seen it mentioned on another forum somewhere, from about 5 years ago, and was hoping we might know a bit more. There is a major nerve ganglion in the solar plexus which could possibly affect brain development.

I've also seen some who are examining a gut-brain connection, in the cases of autism.

I've also seen a memo describing how birth defects might also have an impact on developing autism in babies.



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29 Dec 2009, 7:48 pm

munty13 wrote:
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What does a thickening of the pyloric muscles have to do with the way one's brain and mind function?


Hi ruveyn. I'm not sure. I've seen it mentioned on another forum somewhere, from about 5 years ago, and was hoping we might know a bit more. There is a major nerve ganglion in the solar plexus which could possibly affect brain development.

I've also seen some who are examining a gut-brain connection, in the cases of autism.

I've also seen a memo describing how birth defects might also have an impact on developing autism in babies.


I would certainly like to know more about the gut-brain connection. I know for a fact that my gut and my brain are intimately or perhaps I should say, intricately, connected. I get the slightest bit nervous and my stomach acts up, instantaneously, And I always have a strange and sometimes very unpleasant sensation in my solar plexus. When I mention this to my doctors they just seem to shrug it off like I'm talking nonsense. Sometimes, once the nerves in my solar plexus get stimulated, it seems like a chain reaction that accelerates and becomes more intensely disturbing and uncomfortable, especially when I focus on it. The only way I can stop this nervous reaction between brain and gut is to focus intensely on something that requires absolute attention - obsessions, special interests, anything to escape the havoc/chaos in my solar plexus area.



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29 Dec 2009, 10:13 pm

I think most people's brains and digestive systems are linked rather closely, actually. Think about it; where do people feel nervousness? Stomach, right? And people with anxiety or somatization problems almost invariably have digestive system issues. I don't think it's unique to autism--I just think the digestive system is the first to be affected when the nervous system is on alert. That makes sense because the autonomic nervous system does control the digestive system pretty closely, both during times of stress and when you're relaxed.


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30 Dec 2009, 9:06 am

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And I always have a strange and sometimes very unpleasant sensation in my solar plexus. When I mention this to my doctors they just seem to shrug it off like I'm talking nonsense.


Hi cosmiccat. I suffer the exact same thing. Both the sensation (which can build-up to feel like a blow to the guts) and the lack of empathy.

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I don't think it's unique to autism--I just think the digestive system is the first to be affected when the nervous system is on alert.


Hi Callista.

The thing is, I'm painfully aware of how this sensation in my solar plexus OVERIDES the social part of my brain. It actively inhibits my social behaviours. If I feel the slightest pang here, I simply have no idea how to behave in-front of people.

I can feel the sensation take over my solar plexus and then my very being. Alarm bells are ringing for me to evacuate ANY social scenario, and if at all possible, to get the hell out of my own skin.



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30 Dec 2009, 9:39 am

So? Any physical problem can create sensory overload for an autistic person. Still not specific to stomach troubles.


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12 Nov 2014, 7:43 pm

Well; add me to that (possible) list.

I was operated for Pyloric Stenosis shortly after I was born, had a possible diagnosis of Autism a few years later and had Inguinal Hernia surgery a few years ago.



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24 Oct 2020, 2:10 am

This is an old thread, but I'm an interested recent joiner. I had what by today's standard was basic surgery for PS in 1945 and suspect I suffered some brain damage from very early starvation and 2 weeks of post-op maternal deprivation. My vagus nerve was also damaged so I have a dumping syndrome. The vagus nerve links the brain with many body functions incl digestion. Until recent decades I'd never heard of ADD but I have struggled with it as do some of my family. I have not been able to find any medical articles on a direct link but have "met" several parents online who wonder like I do. PS is so common and easily treated that its many known possible side-effects are of almost no interest to the medical world, incl. research into the PS-ASD and ADD links. I'd value any feedback or shared experiences.