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08 Dec 2014, 4:15 pm

Puberty.


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08 Dec 2014, 4:17 pm

My symptoms were 1st recognized when I was 2 and started the early pre-school: apparently I wasn't even aware my mom left me there and instead of crying for her or be interested in other kids I went straight to toys, pushed them off shelves and started arranging them my way. The caregivers found it weird and told my parents to take me to kids psychiatrist. The doctor "diagnosed" me as "highly intelligent, with normal motor skills development but underdeveloped social skills" (AS was unknown back then) and told my parents: "Don't worry. She will learn."
I never learned... :lol:



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08 Dec 2014, 4:23 pm

My parents have passed on. All I have are things they have said to me and ways they have reacted to me.
My mother told me I wouldn't smile when I was a baby and I didn't let her hug me.
She complained I spent too much time alone in my room and that I would sometimes lay on my bed staring into space.
She complained that I wouldn't tell her when something was wrong with me, that I was too quiet and uncommunicative and didn't have the gift of gab like her.
She said I was slow and babyish for my age.
I know I had motor stereotypies when I was a child because of all the times my mother told me to keep my hands still when I was flapping my fingers and that's how I remember flapping my fingers.
I remember she called me fussy, persnickety, and temperamental and it had to do with sensory issues.
My father told me I didn't like people and only loved animals, even though I know I loved my parents.
I remember not responding to people and my mother telling them I was shy.
I had intense fear of some noises and I remember my parents trying to comfort me during thunder storms.
I didn't make friends or talk to kids at school. Kids called me "outer-space".



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08 Dec 2014, 5:02 pm

I'd have to assume that my symptoms have always been there. Though I didn't know I was, or even think about being "different", when I was younger. Looking back at my life I can see now that there were many clues that I wasn't like everyone else that I didn't pick up on at the time. The first real memory of not being up to par with my friends was when I was still playing with plastic army men while they had moved on to other things, I couldn't have been any older than 10 years old or so at that time.


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08 Dec 2014, 5:57 pm

I don't know what you or your sister mean by negative symptoms.

In general, autistic traits are present in early childhood, and age 3 is commonly used as a time when both social and non-social autistic behaviors can be identified, but many kids are diagnosed earlier than that.


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08 Dec 2014, 6:17 pm

Some time either in infancy or toddlerhood. Definitely before age 3.



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08 Dec 2014, 8:31 pm

Birth!
My development has been uneven, certain areas I developed ahead of schedule and others I was behind.
They didn't know the cause for it then.... just after turning 25, I was diagnosed with AS.


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08 Dec 2014, 9:47 pm

slenkar wrote:
My sister is trying to tell me I am not an aspie because I didn't show any negative symptoms until I was about 11-12

When did your negative symptoms start?


Well, aspies tend to not have symptoms until they enter their first school setting.
However, if you had a good elementary school or was homeschooled, then it is more than possible that the negative symptoms didn't appear until middleschool.
In aspies, the negative symptoms appear when coping becomes an issue. 50% of aspies are diagnosed shortly after starting elementary school. The rest are diagnosed later. So, what you describe isn't entirely rare.


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08 Dec 2014, 10:11 pm

Idk really. I tried to kill myself when I was six but I didn't start having seizures until I was 15. I've always been "different" so to speak but that doesn't qualify as a symptom. I have a genuine dislike of people and don't find my infantile shyness as a symptom of Aspergers. I guess it was around 6 yrs. old and they just gradually got worse. I think 11-12 is young enough to qualify. The symptoms may not show until you have adequate stress around you. I doubt your sis is a Doc. If you have questions ask a professional. You may find out she just doesn't like people that aren't neurotypical.



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08 Dec 2014, 10:23 pm

My symptoms started in infancy. The first I've heard was that I couldn't stand to be held as an infant (would cry and cry and cry until I was put down...then I'd stop).


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08 Dec 2014, 10:24 pm

Like I said, I had extremely negative symptoms when I was a toddler. I used to cry and scream all night. I used to scream whenever I entered a store. I used to knock everything off shelves. I didn't speak a word until I was 5 1/2.



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09 Dec 2014, 6:09 am

After 2nd grade my public school told my parents home school me or send me to private school because we are throwing him out. This was in the 1965 so earlier memories have forgotten or buried.

I don't think that their were developmental markers that said if your child did not hit them, start panicking. There was not as much competition with other parents or helicopter parenting and if there was a problem people did not talk about it. There was only Dr. Spock's baby book. And I was first born. So while I am sure I was different but there was little way for my mother (fathers were not involved in child rearing decisions at all then) to know it was "wrong".


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09 Dec 2014, 7:24 am

No earlier than 4.


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09 Dec 2014, 8:19 am

Ever since I can remember, I have had autistic traits. I am currently working on a book about my life with Asperger's Syndrome, beginning with my earliest memories (before school). After being diagnosed as an adult, I allowed an expert to view home movies of me as a child (age range of baby to eight), and he commented on multiple instances of typical Asperger mannerisms in me. And I had audio recordings of me at the approximate age of six which I let a speech therapist listen to. She said my speech was typical of many of the children with Asperger's that she works with. So my autistic traits were apparent from the earliest moments of my childhood.


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09 Dec 2014, 8:35 am

slenkar wrote:
My sister is trying to tell me I am not an aspie because I didn't show any negative symptoms until I was about 11-12

When did your negative symptoms start?


Up until I was 10 years of age, I had no idea I was "different". I was considered an "odd" child, but I didn't know that. the age of 10 was when I, personally, realized I was different and everything changed. It was, literally, like waking up on the "wrong planet".

It isn't a disease. If you're on the spectrum, then you've always been on the spectrum. I would guess that something happened at the age of 11 or 12 that changed your view of the world. And of yourself.



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09 Dec 2014, 9:06 am

It's hard for me to say with certainty. I've had to do my diagnosis process without assistance from my parents (we're estranged), so my history is a bit spotty. I do know that I had notoriously slow prosody of speech from around 2 to 6, to the degree that family members still tell stories about it. So that's the earliest trait I can really put a finger on.

In early grade school I have hints that there were issues - a note on a report card saying I had trouble paying attention, memories of a card I had to get my mom to sign in grade school every day to show that I had behaved well in class, trips to a neurologist for treatment of frequent night terrors - but nothing that really concretely points to ASD.

Beyond that, my earliest memories that I can pinpoint myself are around age 9 or 10. But those are less about specific traits and more about my behavior. For example, I can remember hiding under a tire during recess in 4th grade because it felt nice how secluded and quiet it was, but I can't remember how being around the other kids made me feel.

At 12 my dad gave me a copy of "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and insisted that I read it, so I have to think by that point my social deficits had been apparent for long enough for my parents to think I wasn't just going through a phase.

At around 15 or 16 is when I can start really pointing to concrete examples of typical ASD behavior and have memories not just of how I reacted to things but how I experienced those things as well.