Wrong Planet Disorder
WOW! We both had the same experience around the same age. I wonder what it is? Why do/did we feel like that at such a young age, I mean, I didn't even have 'issues' or people being horrible to me back then so I had no reason to want to leave. I just seemed to instinctively know that I didn't belong here.
I was 5 when it first started, but I always figured that it was because that's the time I first started watching Star Trek on TV, with Captain Kirk becoming a role model.
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I can honestly say that I don't have a 'wrong planet syndrome' even though I've never felt like I fitted in, but I've never felt like I was born on the wrong planet.
And luckily I don't feel like I was born into the wrong species, like Jenya Bolotov seems to feel
(I've googled him and tried to find out if it's correct information from the news about him, and so far it seems to so)
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WOW! We both had the same experience around the same age. I wonder what it is? Why do/did we feel like that at such a young age, I mean, I didn't even have 'issues' or people being horrible to me back then so I had no reason to want to leave. I just seemed to instinctively know that I didn't belong here.
I was 5 when it first started, but I always figured that it was because that's the time I first started watching Star Trek on TV, with Captain Kirk becoming a role model.
I used to watch Star Trek back then (still do) only Spock was my favorite. I could relate to how he was different to everyone else on the Enterprise.
It sounds stupid and I'm almost too embarrassed to talk about it but when I was really little, after watching Star Trek, I used to stick elastic bands on the tops of my ears to try and train them to be pointy like Spock's.
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It's a weird thing. We were too young for it to be caused by a psychosis and once we grew up, we knew it wasn't real BUT what made us feel like that at such a young age? Why? Some of us have these common experiences but where do they come from? Why at such a young age with no driving force behind it (like being bullied, etc.) do we just naturally feel like we don't belong?
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Simple - generally the masses fear anything that boggles their perception of what is "normal" (and therefore "right"). Because Asperger syndrome and autism generally goes against a lot of the preferences that the NTs established post-19th century Industrial Revolution, it's inevitable we'll be bullied, and therefore oppressed people.
Honestly I've always felt like I was a second class citizen, if not some kind of test subject or animal.
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Honestly I've always felt like I was a second class citizen, if not some kind of test subject or animal.
But that's my point. At the time I first had those feelings of not belonging, I hadn't been bullied (in fact, I never was). There were no negatives in my life to explain why I thought I didn't belong. Sure, if I'd been bullied or given a hard time, well then I could understand someone wanting to believe they don't belong but there were no adverse anything that would drive me to 'want' to be different. It just was!
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Huh, interesting.
I didn't feel "truly different" until about 6th grade. That's when pretty much all the negative stuff started happening. Before though, I never really believed anything was wrong with me. It was more or less give and take. I just did what I always did best. Even when it was apparent that my habits were considered issues, I still didn't really see what was "acceptable" and not.
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I didn't feel "truly different" until about 6th grade. That's when pretty much all the negative stuff started happening. Before though, I never really believed anything was wrong with me. It was more or less give and take. I just did what I always did best. Even when it was apparent that my habits were considered issues, I still didn't really see what was "acceptable" and not.
I've never lived my life to other people's expectations. Even (especially) when I was in Primary/high school, I knew I was different but I liked being different. I never ever believed there was anything "wrong" with me. I just knew I was a different animal. I guess there was some pride there because I not only knew I was different to them but I was smarter. At least smarter in the subjects I liked (Mathematics, Chemistry) and I was the top student in the top classes. When I apply myself, I APPLY MYSELF. As I do with my Special Interests.
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My opinion on this is the same as it has been for a while. It stems from a very different and individually constructed view of reality that the brain builds as a comfortable place to live. All is fine until the aggressive and invasive invalidation of that reality starts.
I think it has to do directly with our exposure to the hive-mind as it works outside of our immediate family. The family is a sub-hive, but of course favors its own members.
Once we are exposed to the environment outside (unprotected) of the sub-hive of the family, then things start to change quickly because the hive mind is extremely aggressive and invasive.
When 5 years old I was just first getting exposed to other kids of my age in pre-school activities, and then soon put into the public school system for first grade where I was in direct contact with large numbers of aggressive kids that were much older than I. That's when the major damage was done very quickly.
I think that we with ASD make very poor social copying machines, and so instead work hard to preserve our own individual reality. I think this just causes the hive mind to react all that more aggressively towards us, and we are punished for being different and failing to adopt (copy) the algorithms of the hive mind.
I don't think it's any surprise at all that this type of environment would make one feel very alienated.
A similar thing happens when you find yourself in another culture where you do not know the language or culture.
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...different perception of reality to those around you.
If you are in a foreign land where the language and culture are different, then it's very easy to tell that you are seeing things in a very different way than those around you. Even if you aren't bullied, or their not pointed out the differences to you, it's still quite easy for you to tell by observing their behaviors.
When you haven't adopted the same algorithms that those around you have, then you see their behavior and think "why would they be doing that?"
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"It's true we are immune, when fact is fiction and TV reality"
"It's a poor sort of memory that only works backwards"
Oh, yes. I've always felt like I could never fit in anywhere. Everyone always seemed to be more happy, have more fun, be themselves easier and care less about everything than I did. Even my fellow Aspies...they always seemed so much cooler and less self-conscious than I did. It's only since recently that I've really come to understand that everyone has problems they're going through.
I'm just more comfortable in my own head, I guess. Though, everything I think about is based on stuff from the real world...
Could you please explain more of what you mean here?
It sounds similar to things I've tried to say when I first came here.
What I mean is, the stories and characters I make up in my head are either completely realistic, based on my observations of the real world, or they're based on something I've read. I do think about people I know, even if I don't tell anyone what I'm thinking. It's not like I have an entire fantasy planet in my head that has nothing to do with anything in the real world.
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And luckily I don't feel like I was born into the wrong species, like Jenya Bolotov seems to feel
(I've googled him and tried to find out if it's correct information from the news about him, and so far it seems to so)
That's so weird.
I'm going to sick a feather in my hair and call myself a Myna bird. Not!
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Yeah I had those thoughts in my head around 17 years of age. I began to perceive myself as different from those around me as things in my life started to not pan out. I never grew out of the shy/awkward phase. For a while I had the notion that I might be some kind of star child or a human conduit, whatever that means. I did see these ideas that seemingly crept into my mind as ludicrous though. So I started looking at concrete disorders and one day I stumbled upon ASD, something I had never heard of prior. The rest is history.
Every once in a while I entertain some of these delusions still, usually when I'm really down. That I have some greater purpose in life, like I'm meant to do something important. I've actually applied these to good use and am trying to get a job where I can do the world some good. These days I believe I live on the right planet, just maybe not the right species. I've begun to wonder about neanderthal homo sapien breeding that occurred 50000 or more years ago. We all carry 1-4% neanderthal DNA. I wonder if our mental structure is a remnant of that dead species or caused by a lack of compatibility. I've seriously thought about going into genetics and researching if there is a connection. I wouldn't call that a delusion actually, but an actual curiosity considering it's an unexplored area. But I'm just making wild speculation based on nothing.
And it would appear that I'm not the only one http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/the-savvy-scientist/what-neandertal-dna-can-teach-about-race-autism-and-more/
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