Why do social interactions wear you out?

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12 Jan 2015, 11:40 am

I like to plan (generally) my conversations with others (you know, topics, updates to common interests etc.). When those brief plans are accomplished, or the location is thick with people, I exhaust much more easily and quickly because I am planning my conversational comments on the fly. Yes, I can mask conversationally (I call it autopilot), but that is exhausting, too. None of my adaptations involve my interests, anyway, so I end up bored.


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12 Jan 2015, 8:09 pm

Fresh experience on social interaction:

I just got cornered by 2 fellow employees downstairs who wanted to chat. I know them well enough to not feel too uncomfortable talking to them but:

(a) I wasn't interested in what they were talking about;
(b) I had nothing much to contribute to the conversation;
(c) I had other things I'd rather be doing;

This started getting a bit nerve wracking. The whole time I was stuck there, there was this constant feeling of "I just want to get away and go back to my desk!"

That's when I realized, a lot of the time, it's not (just) nerves. A lot of it's boredom! Most of the time I get cornered, I'm thinking, "I don't want to listen to this. I don't care. I'd rather be doing what I want to do"

So, not all bad social experiences involve nerves. Sometimes it's just boredom.

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I know a good way I've used on many occasions to end a conversation (I sometimes find ending conversations harder than starting them). Start edging away and make a (tasteful) joke of what's being said and while they're laughing continue to turn and walk away. It works.


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12 Jan 2015, 8:47 pm

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It's very exhausting. I'm not incredibly social by nature, and I'm also not very good at it. I constantly feel like I'm fighting an uphill battle to win people over by being witty, personable, accepting, I feel pressured to have a response to whatever it is they're saying. It's incredibly exhausting to try to conform to what's expected of me on top of that. The entire experience is an incredible burden on me that I will never expect others to understand or show empathy for, and it's VERY frustrating.


I can relate. I'm not a social person either, and I often feel pressured to seem interesting even when I don't really have anything to say. I often think I come across as boring even though I know I'm not (see signature), because I can't think of a response.

In the past I have misunderstood what would come across well and what wouldn't. A couple times I said stupid things because I thought they would make me seem funny and crazy-in-a-good-way, which is what I observed other people as being. I didn't understand the complexities of appropriate social interaction.

So, yeah. Social interaction does wear me out a little bit. As does pretending to be normal.



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13 Jan 2015, 3:27 am

Social interaction wears me out the same way any difficult mental task wears me out.


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13 Jan 2015, 3:51 am

I used to get very burnt out by it & remember it well enough to describe:

It's because the Autistic mind has to intellectually process & calculate everything in a social situation - e v e r y t h i n g. For NT's most social interactions are entirely intuitive. ASD brains have to constantly process every detail in order to figure out how to act/react and it's very very draining.

Try to imagine it as other brain functions.. like autonomous things like breathing and blinking and swallowing etc. Now imagine you didn't automatically do those things naturally. You can do them, but you have to focus intently on them and think and calculate every move.. but you also have to split your attention and processing power over dozens of different brain functions that you have to manually consciously process in order to get all of those typically automatic things to happen.

That's sort of what it's like for those on the autism spectrum when it comes to social interactions. They're not intuitive and require a tremendous amount of energy to make happen. In addition there's also social anxiety likely at play & potentially other symptoms taking their toll on you.


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13 Jan 2015, 3:58 am

ImAnAspie wrote:
Fresh experience on social interaction:

I just got cornered by 2 fellow employees downstairs who wanted to chat. I know them well enough to not feel too uncomfortable talking to them but:

(a) I wasn't interested in what they were talking about;
(b) I had nothing much to contribute to the conversation;
(c) I had other things I'd rather be doing;

This started getting a bit nerve wracking. The whole time I was stuck there, there was this constant feeling of "I just want to get away and go back to my desk!"

That's when I realized, a lot of the time, it's not (just) nerves. A lot of it's boredom! Most of the time I get cornered, I'm thinking, "I don't want to listen to this. I don't care. I'd rather be doing what I want to do"

So, not all bad social experiences involve nerves. Sometimes it's just boredom.

P.S.

I know a good way I've used on many occasions to end a conversation (I sometimes find ending conversations harder than starting them). Start edging away and make a (tasteful) joke of what's being said and while they're laughing continue to turn and walk away. It works.


Oh, well, it seemed like a revelation to me (I don't know :?: )


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13 Jan 2015, 4:15 am

They wear me out because they're haaaaaard :lol:
When I feel socially tired/overwhelmed I just avoid people for some time - except for my sister, because I can count on her not to talk too much if not to say something I'm thinking as well - varying from a few hours to a few weeks (depending on lab and school). Most of my acquaintances and friends don't mind it if I disappear for a while. Some of them do, and I've lost (what I thought to be) friendships because of it.



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13 Jan 2015, 6:06 am

"Normal" people do much of the "work" of social interaction on a subconscious level.

Autistic people have to do most all the work on a cognitive level. This means where a normal person just thinks about what they want to talk about, we have to analyze a myriad of environmental factors on top of what we want to communicate and how to properly convey it to another person. It's like translating between two diplomats at a cease fire summit while juggling fish.

After so much time, depending on how much we can do based on learned skills and how involved we become in an event, we are just burned out from all the mental effort to "fit in."

Then, consider the emotional stress we might be under just being forced into a social situation in which we might be uncomfortable.



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13 Jan 2015, 2:23 pm

Pizzagal3000 wrote:
Its very exhausting!Yes!

Maybe because we think too much about what to say and other "social rules."


Could be. The only times I remember having a lot of social interaction without getting tired were when I was still blissfully unaware that I had any social impairments. Now I've made enough mistakes to shake me out of my complacency, it feels like more of a challenge, I'm less relaxed about it, and it tires me more easily. Also the boredom thing that somebody mentioned is a factor. One of my coping strategies is to keep the lid on my immediacy and instead of playing to win, I play to minimise the damage, which really isn't a lot of fun, and I think it's tiring to tolerate boredom.

I agree about doing social processing with the "wrong" part of the brain too. So many groups just chatter away loud and fast, subject switching all over the place, etc., that it would tire me out if I tried to keep up, presumably because I'm not processing it the way NTs do. I cope by being very selective about the groups I join, only choosing fairly slow-talking, calm, thoughtful people, and nothing large.



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13 Jan 2015, 4:08 pm

It's not the accommodations, it's the nervousness in spite of the accommodations. Any exposure to stressful situations can tire someone out. In my case, even if people are friendly and we seem to be talking without problems my body may be reacting as if we're not. My heart races and my brain starts to fumble. Other times, there's just a lot to keep track of with energetic people.



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13 Jan 2015, 5:01 pm

Reading your replies makes me happy that I don't have Social Anxiety co morbid...
Social interaction wears me of due to boredom, sensory issues and general information overload but at least I don't spend every moment of the talk wondering about social rules. I just act as I feel like. Sometimes I pass, sometimes I make a mistake - but neither of those is intentional, I don't care either way.
The only moments when I am actually aware of social cues is then something is not right: someone uses different tone of voice than I learned is supposed to in such situation or people say I said something I didn't say at all (because my body language apparently "said" otherwise) and I wonder what made them think this way. Other times - I just act my own way even if it is not normal way of acting. And I don't realize I did something weird till other people point it out. :roll:



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13 Jan 2015, 9:14 pm

Social interactions wear me out usually because I never know what to say. I'm always thinking about the unspoken implicit rules of socializing, the social contexts, the slang. I become hyper-vigilant about every little social detail in my head. It just makes me uncomfortable.

Most of the time when I get into a conversation I feel like a deer-in-headlights. And it seems like everyone else has a script and knows exactly what to say and when to say it, and I just wasn't given one.

Life's a play and I don't know my lines.


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14 Jan 2015, 1:00 am

Staying in the same room instead of finding somewhere to hide.



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14 Jan 2015, 1:11 am

I had to stop going to school since people started to noticing me. I have no idea why people enjoy lying to each other to gain social ground, however, I find it unnerving and draining. Hence, I had an emotional break down since I could not handle being observed.



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14 Jan 2015, 2:22 am

I can't mask out background noise, so unless the environment is quiet, the mixed auditory signals wear me out very quickly, and the background noise distracts me from being able to focus on the conversation. It is a strain that gets worse as I get older, and the other thing that I find very wearying is being asked one question after another and another in a group of more than 2 or 3. Sometimes different people are asking different questions at the same time and it overloads me quite quickly unless I am feeling particularly energised and well rested. Which isn't very often. Even the clatter of plates in a restaurant kitchen can keep breaking the thread of my concentration as can a waitperson butting into the conversation while we are in mid-sentence. Ugh.



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14 Jan 2015, 5:58 am

This is all such crap. None of us like humans. They've put us through the shitiest crap!

I'm really surprised I'm not a misanthrope. I am sometimes.
Why do we put up with their sh***y ways?


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