Barchan wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
This empathy thing always gets to me. So many people with ASDs (and other disorders, physical or mental) get bullied at some point in their life by usually NT people, because a lot of NTs don't understand us. But it's still always Autistics that are supposed to lack empathy and NTs are supposed to be the empathetic experts. Not saying all NTs are likely to bully, because there are lots of nice NT people out there are do understand how it feels to be disabled or have some other disorder. It always gets me mad when these empathy discussions get brought up.
I know exactly what you're saying, and I agree. I know what it feels like to have the privileged majority tell you "this is our world, you have to play by
our rules." It's like having the American media call the Iraqi people "violent" when they're the ones bringing all the weapons into our country. I don't want to derail the thread with politics so I'll say no more, but I just want you to know, I know.
I'm glad somebody knows what I mean.
I'm not generalizing, saying NTs aren't empathetic and Aspies are. I'm just saying, I don't think empathy comes into it. I've met Aspies who seemed very natural with empathy, and I've met some NTs who seemed very selfish and only saw everything from their point of view and didn't consider other people's feelings.
I mean, why do so many depressed people get misunderstood? If more people could put themselves into the shoes of a person with depression, people with depression would be a lot more understood. I know a man who had a nervous breakdown and suffers from depression, and finds work daunting because of it. He's been criticized that he should ''just get over it'', and he feels that nobody knows how he feels. Some people do, even if they have never experienced depression before, and usually those are the really empathetic types.
And lastly, often on WP there has been many definitions of empathy. One time I got told that if you feel awkward when somebody is crying, you lack empathy, even if you can feel what that person is feeling. Empathy isn't just about what to do when someone is crying. And I've had tears at work before, and I could tell some people felt awkward and unsure what to say to me or what to do, others cried with me, and others seemed more sympathetic, and others didn't care at all. Everybody's different. So not even every NT reacts to someone crying in exactly the same way. Personally when I see somebody crying it makes me cry, and I try to comfort them.
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