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25 Jul 2005, 7:04 am

I don't know if it's pity, but it irritates me when people speak to me like I'm a child, all slow and soft, like I might run away if they aren't careful.

Sometimes I don't notice it right away, and if I don't know the person it's not too bad, but if it's someone I see who recurrently speaks to me in this manner, it bothers me because it makes me think they must believe I am very stupid.



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25 Jul 2005, 11:40 am

Pity? No. But sympathy is sometimes nice. Granted, not many people seem to overtly pity me. But when it does happen, it annoys me.


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25 Jul 2005, 11:44 am

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I don't know if it's pity, but it irritates me when people speak to me like I'm a child, all slow and soft, like I might run away if they aren't careful.


Civet, the lady at the psych library did that to me the other day. I asked her how to use the copier and she gave me instructions (which I didn't catch because I really need stuff like that written down) and I suppose when I started looking a little anxious about it she said "Oh, that's okay" and put her hand on my shouder, trying to comfort me or something. It was fine the first time. But then when I had to ask her to come back, her doing that started making me nervous. And then I didn't want to make copies in front of her because I felt I was more likely to mess up and she would have to come back and "help" me again. God, I felt stupid. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.


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25 Jul 2005, 12:31 pm

I am reading this topic with much interest, but without much understanding. What exactly is pity? Can you give some examples? Thanks!



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25 Jul 2005, 1:52 pm

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And then I didn't want to make copies in front of her because I felt I was more likely to mess up and she would have to come back and "help" me again. God, I felt stupid. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.


I know what you mean, Sophist :? .

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I am reading this topic with much interest, but without much understanding. What exactly is pity? Can you give some examples? Thanks!


Magic, I'm not completely certain myself, but I will explain to the best of my ability what my understanding of "pity" is.

Pity is when someone feels bad for you, and expresses their feelings in a way that is meant to be comforting. It can come off as condescending, though, and that is what we are discussing here.



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25 Jul 2005, 5:11 pm

magic wrote:
I am reading this topic with much interest, but without much understanding. What exactly is pity? Can you give some examples? Thanks!



The dictionary says this:

PITY (Pit'e)

1.Sorrow or grief aroused by the misfortune of another

And there was another definition of it but that definition was like the one where you say,"What a pity that happened."

So in other words,pity is just feeling sorry for someone when someone think that there is something wrong w/ them...pity is stupid.


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25 Jul 2005, 5:56 pm

Absolutely, thats one of the main reasons I'm cautious about telling anyone about my AS



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26 Jul 2005, 7:46 am

Pity is basically the "Oh you poor thing, how awful" response, in both verbal and non-verbal forms.


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26 Jul 2005, 12:20 pm

Isn't it strange how sympathy/empathy and compassion are often used in the same situations as pity, only with most people pity often has a negative connotation to it. Pity is almost sympathy, however it is unwanted and can belittle the other person. Strange.


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26 Jul 2005, 3:06 pm

Yeah. It's strange.

I bet that pity at one point meant just feeling bad that someone else felt bad.

But now it means a particular kind of "feeling bad for people" that's actually patronizing and belittling. It puts one person above the other.

Like I have chronic pain. And I know it feels like crap, and if I talk to another person who has chronic pain, we kind of grumble with each other, but there's no pity. It's kind of a "Yeah, that sucks" reaction that still has us on equal ground.

But with pity, what I get is "Oh my GAWD how could you live like that?" responses that set my teeth on edge.

And I also get pity for things that don't even bother me, such as not being able to speak. So the person is "feeling bad for" me in a way that I don't feel bad, so I don't know who on earth they're feeling bad for when they do that but it's annoying. Then they decide I'm "brave" or something if I happen to accept the way my body functions.


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26 Jul 2005, 6:07 pm

I guess it's hard to feel "brave" when you know nothing else. It just seems normal almost. It's kinda like you have the inclination to say "You know, I admire you for having the nerve to be normal. That must take a lot of guts."


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26 Jul 2005, 6:12 pm

Yes, I hate being patronised. Got it a lot when I was a kid. But I used to get angrier about it when I didn't understand AS.

Now that I understand, I don't think it happens as much anymore. I'm usually just ignored (like a lot of normal people?) more than condescended to.



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26 Jul 2005, 6:14 pm

I think the way people call some other people "brave" is stupid. Like if you don't have any alternatives to a situation or you don't know anythning else. That sounds more like the definition of "screwed" to me.



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26 Jul 2005, 11:44 pm

I hate it when people treat me like I'm 10 years old, especially my family. They sometimes talk about things they won't discuss around me or when I'm standing there, they whisper like in that way adults talk around children when they think the topic is too "adult". I'm 30 years old and have a college degree yet they treat my 17 year-old sister with more respect than me just because I'm different. :x


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27 Jul 2005, 12:30 am

:twisted: :twisted: :twisted: I HATE HATE HATE PITY!! !! !! !! !! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Why do some peeps think i need pity just cuz I can't spell as good as alot of ppl my age? or because sometimes i act kinda inmature BUT THATS NOT ALOT!

DON'T PITY ME! :evil: IT'S JUST WASTING YOUR AND MY TIME. IF YOU WANT TO SHOW YOUR SYMPATHY JUUST BE NICE!! !!

Sorry pity is one thing that really gets me going. :oops:


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27 Jul 2005, 2:17 am

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I hate it when people treat me like I'm 10 years old, especially my family. They sometimes talk about things they won't discuss around me or when I'm standing there, they whisper like in that way adults talk around children when they think the topic is too "adult". I'm 30 years old and have a college degree yet they treat my 17 year-old sister with more respect than me just because I'm different.


nirrti, when I was young I acted older than my age-- at least in the manner in which I spoke. And the fact that my mother is mostly the only family I had and vice versa, she didn't have a whole lotta choice on who to talk to about serious matters. I was there and acted old enough.

Now, my immaturity feels blatantly obvious when I'm with people my own age. But when I'm around older people, I feel more adult-like. Weird.

I suppose I'm pedantic enough people find it difficult to treat me like a child, hehe.


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