Why do bullies pick on kids with Asperger

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23 Sep 2015, 3:49 pm

I agree. I don't think approach this as your daughter being bullied because of ASD, I think the other girl is behaving inappropriately and who knows what's on her mind, throwing her things and breaking her glasses and laughing shouldn't be tolerated and OPs daughter shouldn't feel it's anything to do with her, it may not be at all. Hopefully the college acts quickly, if the girl who did this looks unstable they may do just that.



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24 Sep 2015, 2:44 pm

Agree with others, something is surely amiss here.

Can I assume that you, the parent, are footing the bill for this attending this college?

There is no way in hell, with the amount my wife and I are paying for out-of-state tuition, that I would put up with crap like that with my daughter. The equivalent of a new Lexus every year.



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24 Sep 2015, 4:38 pm

Problem is what i was told one time by someone in administration of a private college: The parents of the bully are the hardest to deal with as they will threaten to pull all financial and other support from the college if any disciplinary actions are taken against their "precious child" and they use that tone and get rather obnoxious about it.



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24 Sep 2015, 10:00 pm

Imagine, some of us fought back and won. Luckily I grew up in a country where the victims doesn't get suspended for defending himself. I earned a lot of respect from my peers for showing people that they can't just f**k with me.



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25 Sep 2015, 12:56 am

I wish I could say the same. Every time I tried to fight back, they only hurt and humiliated me even more, intently making the point that I'll never earn any respect, because I'm simply too weak, and showing me they'll f**k with me as much as they like and I can't just defend myself. Fortunately for them, they didn't get suspended for putting me in my place, either.


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25 Sep 2015, 1:28 am

Transfer her to another college.
Reporting the bully is pointless, as nobody cares about aspies.


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25 Sep 2015, 1:37 am

Autistic kids usually don't realize that they have to be "fake" in order to fit-in at school.(they don't figure this out till adulthood)

NTs kids are much more fake in general of course, so they're usually already aware of this.(aware of the need to be an "actor" while at school)



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25 Sep 2015, 2:15 am

Because feeling superior to another person feels very good, maybe like heroin to a lot of people. It feels so good that they'll throw away their humanity, morality, empathy and intelligence. Feelings of superiority are the most destructive drug that exists.

Or, put another way, because they can get away with it. Most people are pretty good at fighting back in various ways that are accepted (they know how to play the game), so they're no an easy target. Thus, if someone isn't good at defending themselves then they're an easy target. An easy "score."



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25 Sep 2015, 2:19 am

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Yes, these kids are "easy target and unable to fight back". But if you shoot someone who has no gun in his hand, you would be called coward. So, fighting someone that is unable to fight back, is the lowest of low.



For most bullies, this never, EVER enters their mind. Ever.

They do it because it's a power trip, it makes them feel good about themselves and superior to others. Makes them feel strong, smart, whatever, because they're outdoing/defeating someone.

Often, people doing this have some major problems in their personal life, so they do this to cope (despite that not making sense) because of the "high" they get from it. They attempt to lower their own pain by pushing it off onto others and replacing it with that feeling of strength.

And those things are all they care about. They'll call their target a coward before they ever even conceive of the concept that what they are doing is cowardly.

It's all pretty pathetic.



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25 Sep 2015, 2:36 am

Misery wrote:
Iwannadie wrote:
Yes, these kids are "easy target and unable to fight back". But if you shoot someone who has no gun in his hand, you would be called coward. So, fighting someone that is unable to fight back, is the lowest of low.



For most bullies, this never, EVER enters their mind. Ever.

They do it because it's a power trip, it makes them feel good about themselves and superior to others. Makes them feel strong, smart, whatever, because they're outdoing/defeating someone.

Often, people doing this have some major problems in their personal life, so they do this to cope (despite that not making sense) because of the "high" they get from it. They attempt to lower their own pain by pushing it off onto others and replacing it with that feeling of strength.

And those things are all they care about. They'll call their target a coward before they ever even conceive of the concept that what they are doing is cowardly.

It's all pretty pathetic.


And a lot of outsiders identify with the aggressor and agree with calling the one being attacked a coward.



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25 Sep 2015, 7:16 am

Aniihya wrote:
Imagine, some of us fought back and won. Luckily I grew up in a country where the victims doesn't get suspended for defending himself. I earned a lot of respect from my peers for showing people that they can't just f**k with me.

Yeah, the first time I fought back *I* was the one who got in trouble. My own mother protested this but the school had a 'zero tolerance' policy, no doubt for standing up for yourself.

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For most bullies, this never, EVER enters their mind. Ever.

They do it because it's a power trip, it makes them feel good about themselves and superior to others. Makes them feel strong, smart, whatever, because they're outdoing/defeating someone.

I am as insanely competitive as you can get in sports but I would derive zero enjoyment of beating a group of preschoolers in baseball for example. The rush comes when you take on a challenge BETTER than yourself, right?

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I wish I could say the same. Every time I tried to fight back, they only hurt and humiliated me even more, intently making the point that I'll never earn any respect, because I'm simply too weak, and showing me they'll f**k with me as much as they like and I can't just defend myself. Fortunately for them, they didn't get suspended for putting me in my place, either.

That was my experience as well. Good luck fighting back against 8-10 kids at once is all I say to those who say 'fight back'. It's like trying to fight with the police or the military: they have A LOT more resources than you and they aren't afraid to use them if necessary!

What I hated hearing was how 'the real world' was so much worse. If any of the bullies tried doing what they did to me today they would be arrested and fired immediately. Funny how it's a criminal act to do it to adults but a part of growing up when done to kids. :roll:

Back to the OP, I have never seen a College student act this way, ever. Colleges and Universities are usually very quick to deal with this type of behavior and it usually isn't tolerated by students either. What a welcome relief that was to me!



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25 Sep 2015, 7:19 am

Its because they have such primitive brains (the bullies) that they feel the need to boost their ego by harrassing people who they think are inferior to them. All of this to feel loved by unexistant people.



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25 Sep 2015, 8:09 am

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
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For most bullies, this never, EVER enters their mind. Ever.

They do it because it's a power trip, it makes them feel good about themselves and superior to others. Makes them feel strong, smart, whatever, because they're outdoing/defeating someone.

I am as insanely competitive as you can get in sports but I would derive zero enjoyment of beating a group of preschoolers in baseball for example. The rush comes when you take on a challenge BETTER than yourself, right?


For LOTS of people, this sadly isnt true. And I dont mean just bullies. So many people dont want a challenge... they want the easy win, the simple finish. Bullies see exactly that in their targets, so they go for it.

It's sad, but it's just how so many people are.



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25 Sep 2015, 8:13 am

Exactly. Thats why sometimes I calmly explain to them thats its the primitiveness of their brains controlling them. In their head they think "No, this can't be true! :x " and they get mad and start saying even more nonsensical BS to damage-control. Its so fun to watch.



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25 Sep 2015, 8:28 am

Misery wrote:
For LOTS of people, this sadly isnt true. And I dont mean just bullies. So many people dont want a challenge... they want the easy win, the simple finish. Bullies see exactly that in their targets, so they go for it.

It's sad, but it's just how so many people are.

Good point. I remember when I first started playing online gaming I used to have players that had 7000-0 records take me on. I would have thought a win would become meaningless by that point but then again I am not a bully.



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25 Sep 2015, 12:03 pm

Misery wrote:
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
Misery wrote:
For most bullies, this never, EVER enters their mind. Ever.

They do it because it's a power trip, it makes them feel good about themselves and superior to others. Makes them feel strong, smart, whatever, because they're outdoing/defeating someone.

I am as insanely competitive as you can get in sports but I would derive zero enjoyment of beating a group of preschoolers in baseball for example. The rush comes when you take on a challenge BETTER than yourself, right?


For LOTS of people, this sadly isnt true. And I dont mean just bullies. So many people dont want a challenge... they want the easy win, the simple finish. Bullies see exactly that in their targets, so they go for it.

It's sad, but it's just how so many people are.



Yes I have noticed this as well, instead of punishing a bunch of kids, it's so much easier to have the victim change like the time an eight year old boy was told he couldn't bring his MLP lunchbox to school anymore because "it was a distraction" and lot of people were outraged by that article.

Also the same thing happens in work places, I remember a member here writing years back that her own autistic father worked as a boss and he had to lay someone off who was also probably on the autism spectrum because lot of his employers were too distracted to do their jobs because they were too busy picking on him. So instead of firing all these employers and having to spend money to hire new workers, it's was a lot easier to just get rid of the victim.


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