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InquisitiveCat01
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14 Oct 2015, 7:26 pm

Ok I'm convinced again lol. I feel I'm too easily swayed by other people's opinions and doubting of me.

The main reason I think I have it is because I just don't get social stuff. I just don't. I never have. Yes I can make small talk but I have scripts and don't actually care. There have been situations throughout my life where I felt I was missing something - that something wasn't 'right' about me. My interests are in people and stories so maybe this has made it hard to be noticed for my difficulties. But they're there. I never played with toys like other children and noticed this - I knew I was different I just couldn't understand how. I want the diagnosis because it's the only thing that seems to explain these difficulties. But it's hard if not even I understand what's different - ahhh it's so frustrating! 8O



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14 Oct 2015, 7:29 pm

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I'm so glad this thread was started. I'm just past the GP referral stage in my quest for diagnosis. My view lurches from 'That's so me' to 'I'm not like that'

I almost feel guilty that I might be wasting people's time. Am I taking away resources that could be helping some young person with difficulties at school or getting a job.

When I go to my referral next Tuesday I'll probably start by apologizing for being there.

I know there's something different about me. I want to be sure what it is.

Yea! I feel like this too. Guilt that you aren't dying so it's unfair to take that resource from someone else - totally get that!



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14 Oct 2015, 9:17 pm

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I'm sure that over the weeks after your assessment you'll come to accept whatever the assessment/diagnostic results were. I wouldn't concern yourself too much about it, but I know that's much easier said than done.

It took me almost two years to stop doubting (and obsessing over) the diagnosis. It wasn't that I was in denial. Rather, I thought perhaps I was misdiagnosed (and should have instead been diagnosed with something different).



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14 Oct 2015, 10:12 pm

In the context of you having experienced many years of denial by others long before your diagnosis happened, it doesn't surprise me that it took you time to recalibrate your self-perception, Rocket123. It immensely saddens me that people only reach the state of doubt which is described by various people in this thread because they have been marginalised in dismissive ways so often and for so long in the past. IMO, they didn't create their own state of doubt - others did, and then that was internalised, and became an additional burden to the pre-existing ones.

That is very sad. I am sorry to hear of the pain people have suffered, are suffering, and which others will no doubt suffer, before the climate of acceptance of neurodifference is culturally and professionally established.



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15 Oct 2015, 1:28 am

Yes, I do this too. I was actually recently assessed by an ASD specialist who primarily works with little kids. She diagnosed me with SAD, so for a short time I was leaning towards the "not ASD." However, after really looking over my life and doing more research into girls with ASD, if anything, now I feel more confident in the possibility of having it. At the very least I feel like I can give more specific examples (and my mom can too - I showed her some of Tony Attwood's work on girls with ASD and she was amazed how much of it described me).

So now I'm just contacting places seeing who can assess me. However, this time I'm specifically looking for someone who works with adults often and who also knows how ASD can present in females. I definitely still have doubts, though - mainly about whether I showed enough symptoms of social and communication issues in childhood.


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15 Oct 2015, 2:15 am

I suddenly wonder if it would be worthwhile for you to contact the Autistic Women's Network (you can easily find them online) and ask them if any of their members know of someone suitable in your area. They have some good stuff online about female diagnosis too, as I recall, and their specific mission is to offer female-supportive information.. and/or maybe you could also become a member..



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15 Oct 2015, 2:28 am

I feel the exact same Jezebel - everything matches me to do with the childhood experiences of girls on the spectrum. I've also wondered if I might have ADHD/ADD as well because I struggle to concentrate and am a bit hyperactive sometimes and say impulsive stuff in social situations. But when I bring this to the psych (or anyone) it's always something else - I wonder if they just assume that I'm making it up or that I'm basing my difficulties on one single event or a range of different events (which they are!) I relate a lot to WillowHope's experiences too.

I will certainly look into B19's suggestion. I'm in Australia so home to Tony Attwood and still there seems to be a lot of ignorance around females on the spectrum!



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15 Oct 2015, 3:46 am

This piece from the AWN website may especially resonate with you just now, Jezebel:

http://autismwomensnetwork.org/autistic ... -it-right/



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16 Oct 2015, 2:12 am

AWN got so many responses to a recent post on diagnostic issues for women that this follow-up article has now been posted on the AWN website and it speaks to several of these current threads where we have been discussing both personal and general issues affecting the diagnostic process for women.

https://soniaboue.wordpress.com/2015/10 ... diagnosis/



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16 Oct 2015, 12:16 pm

These are really helpful links.

My daughter's therapist has sent a recommendation to the school Child Study Team to have her assessed because of the many spectrum traits that she has observed. For some reason the school had not noticed, though they picked up on similar traits in my son very quickly. AWN is a great resource.



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16 Oct 2015, 5:13 pm

As a 38 year old male, I'm curious the reasons for a diagnosis at this point. I am undiagnosed, but have no doubt. Everything from my life points to autism very simply. Is there a reason for a diagnosis that I'm missing? I don't require services and am very comfortable with myself at this point. I started to become aware of my tendencies around 5 years ago and have followed up on them since. I really have no doubt that I'm autistic, so curious what benefits, if any, a diagnosis would actually bring.



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16 Oct 2015, 7:00 pm

No, I can't see any benefit for you either.

I think a core issue is whether you are a person with skills gained from experience (whether formal/informal or both) which enable you to use those skills to discriminate, analyse, apply information and make confident decisions, then this is just one more area in which those skills can be applied to information, and given the wealth of professional information on the net, in libraries and so on, (such as Tony Attwood's), the information cache is readily available.

However I suspect that most people don't develop that sort of 'embedded' confidence and skill level until their mid-30s (often much later) and often younger people find an external/formal diagnosis more helpful to themselves. So there are 'different strokes for different folks', and it's a not black/white issue.. if you don't have those skills and that confidence level at any age, then the validation of an external assessor may be needed to confer peace of mind. (Unfortunately the clinical issues which affect diagnosis/misdiagnosis ratios may only increase their confusion).



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16 Oct 2015, 9:55 pm

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I think a core issue is whether you are a person with skills gained from experience (whether formal/informal or both) which enable you to use those skills to discriminate, analyse, apply information and make confident decisions, then this is just one more area in which those skills can be applied to information, and given the wealth of professional information on the net, in libraries and so on, (such as Tony Attwood's), the information cache is readily available.


Thanks, that describes me and my professions very well. Have worked one-on-one with people on the spectrum and have obtained CEUs on the topic during my pursuit of self-awareness and self-diagnosis. Just read the intro to Neurotribes today. Again, tingly feeling of happy reading it.

Such a relief figuring out "who I am" over the past 5 years.



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17 Oct 2015, 2:09 pm

BecomingMe wrote:
As a 38 year old male, I'm curious the reasons for a diagnosis at this point. I am undiagnosed, but have no doubt. Everything from my life points to autism very simply. Is there a reason for a diagnosis that I'm missing? I don't require services and am very comfortable with myself at this point. I started to become aware of my tendencies around 5 years ago and have followed up on them since. I really have no doubt that I'm autistic, so curious what benefits, if any, a diagnosis would actually bring.


I got my diagnosis last week at 33! Best thing i ever did, wanted to make sense of things and an official diagnosis is good to get extra help if needed.. totally understand if your totally comfortable with yourself as you are though :)


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18 Oct 2015, 12:01 pm

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Ok so something is definitely up with me and I can't quite put my finger on it (so to speak). I relate to a lot of things to do with the spectrum and am currently obsessed about it! But every single time I'm obsessed with it and convinced I have it, self doubt always sets in eventually...

What if I don't have it and am making a big deal of nothing?

What if it's something completely different that - God forbid - has a worse image than ASD/ADD/ADHD?

What if I go into my appointment and they say I don't have it, but continue feeling like nobody gets me?

What if I do get the diagnosis but feel like a fraud because I'm doubting myself now?

What if they give me medication that is meant to change me (scary!)?

What if what if what if...

Anyone else feel/felt like it.

Waiting for a diagnostic appointment is painful.


All of these are why I can't even seem to take any steps towards getting a diagnosis. When I first started reading up on autism (because people kept suggesting my niece was autistic to my sister) and links led me to adults/high functioning autism it was almost a relief. Reading it was like... Well that's me, and that's me, and that's me, and it all added up so quickly in my head.

But then all your questions above set in... what if no one believes me, what if they diagnose me with something WORSE than autism, what if I really am making this all up (that one goes away pretty quick though, I don't think I'm making anything up)... I haven't even figured out who to talk to about an assessment much less taken the steps to get there.


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Let me explain: I am not diagnosed nor am I "self-diagnosed," all I know are what my life experiences have been up to this point and a lot of it makes more sense when considered through the lens of autism and sensory processing issues.


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18 Oct 2015, 2:33 pm

I wonder if, given the painful confusion that can and does affect people re this, allied to understandable anxiety arising from both intrinsic and extrinsic factors (for obvious reasons, there are some real, structural and clinical barriers built into the diagnostic process and it's an imperfect process at best) whether it would be worth seeing and working out preparation with someone who can upskill you to define, select, refine and practice the way you present your information.

Different groups have these kind of skills to varying degrees depending on their personal ability - facilitators, people who offer conflict resolution training and skills, some counsellors, some patient advocates, some retired clinicians and psychologists, some bloggers who dialogue with people on their sites. There are also some presentations about clinical communication which have been made in NZ conferences which I could try to find and post later on today (busy for next 5 hours). Or a support group of people dawn from the ASD community to work together to formulate a clear framework of self-advocacy. One way or another I think there must be more we can do to help people prepare for this harrowing experience of being judged once again in life - and many people on the spectrum have had such a lifetime of being judged by strangers that they have been traumatised by it.