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DevilKisses
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20 Oct 2015, 5:33 pm

The old definition was someone who gets drained when they interact with people and don't enjoy meaningless interactions. Now it's basically code for being boring. If I call myself an introvert people will think I hate excitement and watch Netflix all the time. Now I avoid that word because I hate boring people and I don't want to accidentally call myself boring.


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20 Oct 2015, 9:46 pm

How do you figure that?

When someone says their are introverted, I'm assuming people drain them. A night at a rave will set them back a week. That they do much better with a few people than a 100 person party.

Boring isn't part of the equation.

Now...would I invite someone I know that is introverted, and doesn't care for large social occasions to a rock concert, big beach party, 80 people game/movie night? Probably not. Not because they are boring or dull, but because a zillion people and small talk aren't their bag.

Do you feel like you aren't included with your friends because they know a jungle like social situation wears you out?

My extremely introverted, Aspie husband gets mad that his friends don't invite him to things like movies or comic cons. He has turned down so many offers, or has went and been absolutely miserable, they stopped inviting him to those events. He wants to be invited to turn it down. Doesn't happen that way in NT Land. After the 4th or 5th no show or no response, you get dropped from the invite list. Not because you aren't wanted (his friends see him at other times), it's because no one wants that awkward is he coming, no/yes, etc social interaction. It is not fun to be on the receiving end of repeated nos.



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20 Oct 2015, 10:09 pm

Merriam Webster defines an introvert as someone who is shy and quiet and does not find it easy to talk to other people.

The term, "boring" is not included in this or any other definition.

Why are you under the impression that the meaning has changed?



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20 Oct 2015, 11:28 pm

Marvin_the_Martian wrote:
Merriam Webster defines an introvert as someone who is shy and quiet and does not find it easy to talk to other people.

The term, "boring" is not included in this or any other definition.

Why are you under the impression that the meaning has changed?

I'm talking more about connotations. Before it meant someone would rather go to the library than go to a party full of clones. Now it seems like it means you want to binge on Netflix and tell everyone how awkward and introverted you are.


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20 Oct 2015, 11:54 pm

8O Its' been seized via eminent domain! Although this is a weird collective misconception that probably boils down to people misunderstanding Latin grammar, I can't help noticing NT society as a whole taking on some weird, insular aspie habits. In other words, introversion is a 2 way street. I think extroversion allows for sporadic introversion...


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21 Oct 2015, 2:34 am

Introverted sounds derogatory to me. I would rather use a term like wallflower.



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21 Oct 2015, 4:43 am

Check out the book "Quiet" about Susan Cain, it's awesome pinpointing exactly what an introversion is and exactly what it is not.



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21 Oct 2015, 5:02 am

A book? I prefer the simpler option:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=define+introverted



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21 Oct 2015, 5:12 am

Huh? With everybody I know, introvert has become a very popular thing to refer to yourself as. Yeah, even people that really don't fit the bill.



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21 Oct 2015, 5:57 am

In my teen years of the late 1970's-early 1980's, the connotation where I lived then was essentially that an introvert=loner, in other words, someone that wanted to be by themself as much as possible, causing me to picture things such as the great Garboe later in life.
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My life turned out way different from that. I found out I could function in large crowds IF similar interests were shared. The rock concert Tawaki mentioned above would be a classic example, as association with like-thinking fans makes the interaction tolerable for me. Another example would be a sporting event. Again, a common ground, very unlike hitting up a big-box store full of dysfunctional families on a weekend, or heading to the DMV on the final Friday of the month, either of which would send my blood pressure to the moon and make me want to go home and hide for a week.
Sure, I would much rather associate in smaller groups, but the more popular my particular interest, the bigger the crowd gathering will be. I've found the best way to prepare for "taking on the masses" is to plan adequate "self-time" both before and after in order to allow healthy planning and unwinding for me.


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21 Oct 2015, 6:28 am

It seems like a good strategy not to use the word "introvert" to describe oneself.
But at the same time it will weed out the people who think it means something different than it supposedly does and that that's a bad thing they would rather dissociate with.



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21 Oct 2015, 6:37 am

I disagree with the boring connotation--introversion is quite fashionable right now. In part it's due to the book "Quiet", already mentioned, but even more so the TED talk the author gave about the "Power of the Introvert": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0KYU2j0TM4

And maybe you should cut boring people some slack. They don't deserve your hate.



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21 Oct 2015, 8:19 am

I don't like to use the term "introvert" because people then think you don't like people or want to be left alone. Not so. Not so at all.

Most people don't know the technical definition of introvert as being someone who loses energy being with people.



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21 Oct 2015, 8:22 am

What is meant by "energy"? This is something I've never understood. Does being in the same room as someone make an introvert sleepy?



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21 Oct 2015, 9:12 am

It's like introverts usually come away from social interactions or from being with people and end up tired, exhausted, in shutdown, or meltdown, or feeling sick even though they weren't horribly miserable while out with the people. It's like an energy drain. You don't feel able to do much of anything else outside your normal routine or solitary activities or nothing at all.

Extroverts go out with people and when it's over they are usually "energized" from it: feel empowered, want to do more, feel like they could do anything at the time. I am not an extrovert but this is what I imagine extroverts might experience from my occasional experiences of not feeling drained (physically empty) and worn out after being out with people.



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21 Oct 2015, 9:20 am

Binging on Netflix? Stats show this is typical behavior. Introvert, extrovert, everyone does that.

I don't know how this came to signify something bad for you, but in this era, there is nothing stigmatized or atypical about watching back to back content on Netflix.

Extroverts may find introverts boring. Introverts may find extroverts boring. Not much to worry about in that.