DevilKisses wrote:
I'm just wondering how much you guys care about people's gender. I don't usually care unless it's a gender specific conversation. I like how easy it is to hide gender on the internet. Unfortunately some people have no clue how to interact with people without knowing their gender.
I don't really care either. When I am on the internet, for example in forums I don't even think about which gender a person who posts is most of the time. I think for me it's more about the content then. But I have made the experience that people can get confused when they don't know another one's gender.
nerdygirl wrote:
I do believe there are some differences between men and women.
For example, women tend to be more talkative then men. I know differences like these are stereotypical generalizations, but those are formed based on normative experience.
So, it helps to know what someone's gender is.
A short reply from a man is interpreted differently than a short reply from a woman, for example.
I *personally* do not care what gender someone is, though I tend to get along better with guys.
I also do not care if someone doesn't "fit" the gender stereotypes. In fact, most of the females I have been most friendly with over the years have been tomboys. I also have had many guy friends who were very shy and others that were more effeminate.
Although in my experience some of those stereotypes tend to be true, I haven't really thought about the whole thing like that and how knowing a person's gender could help with interacting. That's interesting. As I wrote above on the internet I don't think about it, so I don't analyze for example the length of a message dependent on the gender. But now, as I think about it I guess that might explain some people's perception about me. They try to apply those generalizations to me and it doesn't quite work, I guess.
I also tend to get along better with guys. I don't know why exactly, but maybe it's the stereotype you mentioned that women tend to be more talkative. I sometimes just want to be silent and don't want to talk. Men seem to accept that easier or don't talk so much themselves. But that's another generalization, I think. In my opinion it depends on the personality and so I don't care if someone is male or female and if they fit those stereotypes. It's important how I get along with someone as a person.
Edenthiel wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Gender is just a thing, like having blue eyes or brown.
And yet some people get so angry - sometimes violently so - if someone else "changes" their perceived gender or if the perceiver is mistaken in their assignment of someone else. And to some trans people, long-term, enforced misgendering can be traumatic. Clearly to at least those two subgroups, it's a thing, but a really important thing.
For myself I agree with Fnord. I don't care about my gender more than about my eye colour. But I also see your point, Edenthiel. That means that I accept how other people perceive their own gender and that it is important for others although I don't care about it.
Misery wrote:
As someone with gender issues and general confusion related to that, I tend to find alot of it to be either annoying or bizarre, or even restrictive at times.
b9 wrote:
men are called mr, and women are called mrs or ms.
men wear pants and women wear dresses.
men have short hair and women have long hair.
men are hairy and women are smooth.
men are cranky and women are dreamy.
men build objects and women build nests.
men have deep voices and women have high voices.
if all that changed, how would i know what i am talking to?
This is a pretty decent example of some of that. Alot of people tend to not just think of this stuff, but then also try to forcibly apply it to others, and if someone just still doesnt match those categories, something's wrong.
And of course, if I do anything that's far enough outside of my stupid gender role that I'm supposed to adhere to, people can get really funky about it.
Mostly, I just wish people could be more accepting, and stop boxing absolutely everyone into these pre-set "roles" that are apparently the most important things ever. Bah.
I totally agree with that. I hate it when people try to force me into my gender role and tell me what is "normal" to do as a female. Why do they do that? It makes me feel bad and "wrong“ although I don't want to. In my "inner world" it doesn't matter and like you I wish that people could be more accepting that not everybody fits the gender stereotypes and that there's nothing wrong with that.
Varelse wrote:
DevilKisses wrote:
I'm just wondering how much you guys care about people's gender. I don't usually care unless it's a gender specific conversation. I like how easy it is to hide gender on the internet. Unfortunately some people have no clue how to interact with people without knowing their gender.
Not at all. I see each person as unique, and also as an entity that changes continually with context and over time.
That's how I think about people most of the time, too.
Raleigh wrote:
I don't see why people can't see and speak to me as a person without making a huge fuss about whether I'm male or female.
I'm neither.
I'm agender.
So where does that leave me?
Will no one ever speak to me again because they can't put me in a category?
Well said. I often feel like that.
What I find a bit funny actually is that I am sometimes considered being a male. When people realize that that's wrong they tend to apologize a lot for doing that mistake. But to be honest I don't really care about it. I feel rather neutral, but when I know that I am meant by a comment I don't care if the person refers to me as "he" or "she". It might be a mistake by them in the view of my biology, but it is okay for me. But that's something most people don't get. They think I should feel annoyed when someone labels me with the wrong gender because they tend to make a big deal about it.
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26 Nov 2015, 10:16 pm
