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09 Jan 2016, 12:32 pm

I am officially diagnosed with aspergers. A lot of things I've seen say that people with aspergers are good at one specific thing (referring to special interests), but almost all of them use math as an example. I am bad at memorizing phone numbers and birthdates. Looking at equations makes my head hurt and I start to become angry. I often make simple errors in calculation; recently I messed up addition and I was using a calculator. What the heck, how does that happen.

Anyways, I was wondering if it was highly unusual for people with aspergers to be bad at math? I like the idea of math, I like that it always has a set answer, but I do not like the practice of it, because I cannot get the answer.


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09 Jan 2016, 12:36 pm

I have never been good with mental arithmetic. I think it is because of a deficit in working (very short term) memory. I think this is also the reason I have not been good at learning computer programming nor philosophy.

Strangely enough, I always earned A's in math in school. I think it is because there, you learn processes and procedures, and need to demonstrate that you know them. But in everyday things, a lot of people I know who never had advanced math classes are very accurate and rapid at computing things in their head. I admire them.

On the other hand, I'm a kick-ass speller and pretty good at pattern recognition.


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09 Jan 2016, 12:43 pm

I consider myself fairly decent at math, although I'm much better at writing things down and working them out than I am at figuring them out in my head. I also use the "nines trick" when multiplying numbers by nine. Sad but true.


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09 Jan 2016, 1:06 pm

I was bottom of the class in maths at school. I've learned quite a bit in in 39 years since leaving and I'm good at basic arithmetic now, and I understand Pi etc. But what the hell use equations are or how they work, I still have no clue. I am much more interested in, and competent with words.



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09 Jan 2016, 1:59 pm

I´m best with words - but I´m not a-mathematical. I just have difficulty reading numbers. There is only a weak connection between the number and the sight of it. Sometimes I even "read" numbers, that aren´t there.

In the WAIS test, I impressed the psychologist by remembering the longest rows of numbers, he read to me, but, when I had to do them backwards, I fell with a bang, - because I only remembered them by sound of their names - as sound patterns. I couldn´t reverse them. 8O


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09 Jan 2016, 4:37 pm

I'm good at understanding complex math formulas, but I'm terrible at adding two numbers together, or memorizing anything. So as long as I have a calculator I'm okay, but otherwise it's pretty embarrassing :P



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09 Jan 2016, 5:41 pm

Thank you for your responses! I was able to remember complex number patterns and say them back as well- but I also was just remembering the sound pattern. I could still do it backwards though.

I also use the nines trick, and I know how to multiply 3's by doing the school house rock songs. I can multiply any numbers except for 6 and 7, and I get to those by multiplying 5 and then adding.

I am great with word meanings but terrible at spelling. I got a 100 percent on the language portion of the IQ tests for adults even though I am not yet an adult, but I still make very basic spelling errors.

Once I understood a complex formula in chemistry and it made me so happy. It just made so much sense and the way it was laid out was visually appealing, it was easier than basic multiplication for me, even though most of my classmates hated that formula and thought it was hard. I loved that math problem, but that is one of the only math problems I have licked. Sadly, I have forgotten how to do it now :C

I also have a good feel for grammar, where commas should go and such, but I can never remember the names of the rules. I just follow them instinctively, which is not so good when I am quizzed on their names :/

I make errors in addition and I'm not sure how that happens.

My mom is dyslexic. Do you think dyslexia could play into this?


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09 Jan 2016, 6:09 pm

Being good in mental arithmetics is not a prerequisite for being good at math. Math is about so much more than that. In fact, I'd say it's more about abstract concepts than the numbers itselves. I know many good mathematicians and scientists which are just average or even poor in mental arithmetics. Don't think of yourselves as poor in math because you find it hard to add numbers in you're head. Then you're poor at just that; mental arithmetics


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09 Jan 2016, 7:02 pm

Roach, you don´t sound dyslectic.


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09 Jan 2016, 7:19 pm

Jensen wrote:
Roach, you don´t sound dyslectic.


oki doki. I've also heard though, that there is dyslexia specific to specific things, such as number. not sure though. Not even saying im dyslexic, but perhaps that trait was carried over to me partially?


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09 Jan 2016, 7:58 pm

Dyscalculia?

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Dyscalculia is difficulty in learning or comprehending arithmetic, such as difficulty in understanding numbers, learning how to manipulate numbers, and learning facts in mathematics. It is generally seen as a specific developmental disorder.

Dyscalculia can occur in people from across the whole IQ range, often, but not always, involving difficulties with time, measurement, and spatial reasoning. Estimates of the prevalence of dyscalculia range between 3 and 6% of the population. A quarter of children with dyscalculia have ADHD.

Dyscalculia involves frequent difficulties with everyday arithmetic tasks like the following:

Difficulty reading analog clocks[8]
Difficulty stating which of two numbers is larger
Inability to comprehend financial planning or budgeting, sometimes even at a basic level; for example, estimating the cost of the items in a shopping basket or balancing a checkbook
Difficulty with multiplication-tables, and subtraction-tables, addition tables, division tables, mental arithmetic, etc.
Difficulty with conceptualizing time and judging the passing of time. May be chronically late or early
Problems with differentiating between left and right
Inability to visualize mentally
Difficulty reading musical notation
Difficulty with choreographed dance steps
Difficulty working backwards in time, (e.g. What time to leave if needing to be somewhere at 'X' time)
Difficulty comprehending things relating to occurrences in different time zones
Difficulty navigating or mentally "turning" the map to face the current direction rather than the common North=Top usage
Having particular difficulty mentally estimating the measurement of an object or distance (e.g., whether something is 10 or 20 feet (3 or 6 meters) away).
Inability to grasp and remember mathematical concepts, rules, formulae, and sequences
Inability to concentrate on mentally intensive tasks
Mistaken recollection of names. Poor name/face retrieval. May substitute names beginning with same letter.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia



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09 Jan 2016, 8:18 pm

Yes! Like that! But I've heard several of those things are autism things; like being bad at reading a clock and having poor face/name retrieval.


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09 Jan 2016, 8:27 pm

Those things can be associated with ASD, but they are not a part of the diagnostic criteria. Many people with Autism have comorbid conditions.



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09 Jan 2016, 11:00 pm

I'm bad at math & numbers but I have dyslexia & on top of my Aspergers


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10 Jan 2016, 3:34 am

We might be known for being good at math or computers but that doesnt mean we enjoy it. Also we are known for not being good at simple stuff.



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10 Jan 2016, 5:48 am

Yes, I´ve got 8 of he 16. Dyscalculia, that is.


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