why do NT get mad when they know you are right?
It's even worse than you think: sometimes people actually manage to be more wrong when you present them with correct information:
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas ... ?page=full
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The iguana in a room full of rabbits.
I remember back when I used to play Yugioh actively there was always this big ordeal whenever a disagreement in how a card combo would play out. It would start out with me explaining to the other player how things play out based on rules and what the cards say they do, and they'd say they disagree, which is fine. More often than not though they'd call their friends over to get other opinions; funny thing is I was usually correct and they'd be angry about that fact.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas ... ?page=full
Read the article...basically says that a lot of misinformed people just get more stubborn when proven wrong. Nothing new there.
I think that's true for just about anybody who is misinformed. Not everybody can accept that they can be wrong. I would think that much of it strikes at a belief system many times they have held all their lives.
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Diagnosed April 14, 2016
ASD Level 1 without intellectual impairments.
RAADS-R -- 213.3
FQ -- 18.7
EQ -- 13
Aspie Quiz -- 186 out of 200
AQ: 42
AQ-10: 8.8
I agree with this. Many religions address this. I'm an NT, and it took years to practice swallowing pride. Admitting you're wrong gets easy after a time, you just have to go through the shame of your prideful actions. Once you recognize shame, you won't repeat the same mistake. Experience shame is hard, because it literally burns. the cherry on top, is giving a beautiful, well-crafted, sincere apology.
I guess that life is much less stressful, when you reach that state.
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Your Aspie score: 168 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 30 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
Diagnosed
AQ=44, IQ=136
I agree with this. Many religions address this. I'm an NT, and it took years to practice swallowing pride. Admitting you're wrong gets easy after a time, you just have to go through the shame of your prideful actions. Once you recognize shame, you won't repeat the same mistake. Experience shame is hard, because it literally burns. the cherry on top, is giving a beautiful, well-crafted, sincere apology.
Ok, I have never received an apology from an Aspie.
My question is to all Aspies - Do you ever think that you are wrong? If so, please give an example of when you were wrong and admitted it.
And if you have ever apologized, please give me an example.
Not you, Mr. K.
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
I'm a known apologizer, but often I'll apologize for things that do not need an apology. Like after I realize I should have waited to start talking til I was in the room I'll apologize, which is expected. But I'll often apologize profusely over things that do not need one, like not saying something in a way that was easy to understand given my speech impediment. Or soon as I goof up something that doesn't matter I'll still say "I'm sorry".
One should remember that Arthur Fonzerelli (Fonzie), that NT of NT's, always had a hard time admitting he was wrong.
Whenever he was forced to admit he was wrong, he would say, "I was...w....w....w....w....w......, etc" He would also pound the walls of his "office" (the bathroom) in frustration.
I agree with this. Many religions address this. I'm an NT, and it took years to practice swallowing pride. Admitting you're wrong gets easy after a time, you just have to go through the shame of your prideful actions. Once you recognize shame, you won't repeat the same mistake. Experience shame is hard, because it literally burns. the cherry on top, is giving a beautiful, well-crafted, sincere apology.
Ok, I have never received an apology from an Aspie.
My question is to all Aspies - Do you ever think that you are wrong? If so, please give an example of when you were wrong and admitted it.
And if you have ever apologized, please give me an example.
Not you, Mr. K.
I was firmly on the side that nobody in their right mind would want to be diagnosed just to be 'diagnosed'. Then I found information that shed some light on it with information to back it up. Changed my viewpoint.
Logic can only carry you so far if you don't have all the additional pieces. But, I have to have information to process it as something other than opinion. Cite a study, give a link. Something other than, "What I say..."
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Diagnosed April 14, 2016
ASD Level 1 without intellectual impairments.
RAADS-R -- 213.3
FQ -- 18.7
EQ -- 13
Aspie Quiz -- 186 out of 200
AQ: 42
AQ-10: 8.8
I agree with this. Many religions address this. I'm an NT, and it took years to practice swallowing pride. Admitting you're wrong gets easy after a time, you just have to go through the shame of your prideful actions. Once you recognize shame, you won't repeat the same mistake. Experience shame is hard, because it literally burns. the cherry on top, is giving a beautiful, well-crafted, sincere apology.
Ok, I have never received an apology from an Aspie.
My question is to all Aspies - Do you ever think that you are wrong? If so, please give an example of when you were wrong and admitted it.
And if you have ever apologized, please give me an example.
Not you, Mr. K.
I was firmly on the side that nobody in their right mind would want to be diagnosed just to be 'diagnosed'. Then I found information that shed some light on it with information to back it up. Changed my viewpoint.
Logic can only carry you so far if you don't have all the additional pieces. But, I have to have information to process it as something other than opinion. Cite a study, give a link. Something other than, "What I say..."
But have you ever been in a conversation with someone and they proved you wrong and you admitted you were wrong?
And have you ever apologized?
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
I agree with this. Many religions address this. I'm an NT, and it took years to practice swallowing pride. Admitting you're wrong gets easy after a time, you just have to go through the shame of your prideful actions. Once you recognize shame, you won't repeat the same mistake. Experience shame is hard, because it literally burns. the cherry on top, is giving a beautiful, well-crafted, sincere apology.
Ok, I have never received an apology from an Aspie.
My question is to all Aspies - Do you ever think that you are wrong? If so, please give an example of when you were wrong and admitted it.
And if you have ever apologized, please give me an example.
Not you, Mr. K.
I was firmly on the side that nobody in their right mind would want to be diagnosed just to be 'diagnosed'. Then I found information that shed some light on it with information to back it up. Changed my viewpoint.
Logic can only carry you so far if you don't have all the additional pieces. But, I have to have information to process it as something other than opinion. Cite a study, give a link. Something other than, "What I say..."
But have you ever been in a conversation with someone and they proved you wrong and you admitted you were wrong?
And have you ever apologized?
1) In personal conversations, yes.
2) Why should I apologize if I acknowledge the other party is correct? I would not expect an apology. An apology is required when grievous intent is applied. There is no negative connotation to my assertion that I am right, or the other person is wrong. Just need to find the correct path.
Why apologize?
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Diagnosed April 14, 2016
ASD Level 1 without intellectual impairments.
RAADS-R -- 213.3
FQ -- 18.7
EQ -- 13
Aspie Quiz -- 186 out of 200
AQ: 42
AQ-10: 8.8
I agree with this. Many religions address this. I'm an NT, and it took years to practice swallowing pride. Admitting you're wrong gets easy after a time, you just have to go through the shame of your prideful actions. Once you recognize shame, you won't repeat the same mistake. Experience shame is hard, because it literally burns. the cherry on top, is giving a beautiful, well-crafted, sincere apology.
Ok, I have never received an apology from an Aspie.
My question is to all Aspies - Do you ever think that you are wrong? If so, please give an example of when you were wrong and admitted it.
And if you have ever apologized, please give me an example.
Not you, Mr. K.
I was firmly on the side that nobody in their right mind would want to be diagnosed just to be 'diagnosed'. Then I found information that shed some light on it with information to back it up. Changed my viewpoint.
Logic can only carry you so far if you don't have all the additional pieces. But, I have to have information to process it as something other than opinion. Cite a study, give a link. Something other than, "What I say..."
But have you ever been in a conversation with someone and they proved you wrong and you admitted you were wrong?
And have you ever apologized?
1) In personal conversations, yes.
2) Why should I apologize if I acknowledge the other party is correct? I would not expect an apology. An apology is required when grievous intent is applied. There is no negative connotation to my assertion that I am right, or the other person is wrong. Just need to find the correct path.
Why apologize?
I mean about anything.
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
Now I'm confused. Apologizing for anything is not the same as apologizing when wrong.
For what are you asking to be apologized?
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Diagnosed April 14, 2016
ASD Level 1 without intellectual impairments.
RAADS-R -- 213.3
FQ -- 18.7
EQ -- 13
Aspie Quiz -- 186 out of 200
AQ: 42
AQ-10: 8.8