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01 Jun 2016, 8:16 pm

When I see a person suffering, I often want to help the person and feel sympathy, but I don't know how to comfort them. I feel like whatever I say, it will be the wrong thing and I'll just make it worse. Also, sometimes people don't want to be comforted at all. Most NTs find this strange and assume I'm not interested in them. This is especially true for strangers because some people feel uncomfortable sharing their problems with strangers (I know I do :oops:).

I also experience empathy in "baffling" situations. Like last year, I was on the bus and there was a young boy (maybe about 4) who was really upset, I didn't know why he was upset, but I really felt for him. Most NTs would feel for the parent who had to deal with it, but I felt more for the boy.


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01 Jun 2016, 8:23 pm

Yep....I always seem to intrude on people's space when a baby is crying. I want the baby to stop....so I might make funny faces, or even touch the baby's hand.

Sometimes, parents don't like it when you "enter their space," so to speak.



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01 Jun 2016, 8:36 pm

When someone is obviously distressed, it is may be more helpful to ask "What do you need?" than the more usual "Are you ok?" Asking for permissions before acting can be reassuring too: ie "Will it be ok if I sit beside you just now, or would you like me to give you some space?"



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01 Jun 2016, 8:40 pm

That's great advice B19! I also have problems expressing sympathy or empathy. Its as if I know when it's appropriate but have extreme difficulty figuring out the situation and what exactly my role is. But with kids I have no problem. I think I lacked receiving this as a child and therefore have a clearer picture of what I would have wanted but that doesn't translate into adult interactions. Kids are not as aware nor do they seem to judge whether what you are saying or doing is the "right" response. This is probably why I adore most little kids especially boys. I also never quite figured out female behavior as much even though I am one.



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01 Jun 2016, 8:54 pm

Sometimes people just want you to listen and not really say much at all. People need to feel heard. That is sometimes the best way to comfort someone is that they know that you heard them.


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01 Jun 2016, 8:58 pm

Being there , really being there is all important. This came last at home, which logically "should" have been first. Should was in quotes cause I'm trying hard not to should on myself. ( humor is used on myself.

Saying I don't know why to say also comes to mind.


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02 Jun 2016, 11:17 am

If I feel I should ask, I'll ask: Is everything alright? If the person then wants to talk about whatever is bothering him/her, the decision is then up to him/her. I have made an open invitation without demanding any answers.

And as I have made an invitation, I also have to welcome the person I invited. That means I should then listen and be present. Just to be seen and heard for real is very comforting for most. In many cases that is also all you can do. Just to realize that someone cares for you and thus asks Is everything alright? can by itself mean alot.

In my work I've had the opportunity to meet and listen people of all kinds. I do try not to take sides or positions. But if you know the person better, then I feel it is no sin to offer new perspectives and new ways of looking at things - to have a dialogue.

You can also add hope, energy, joy and for example kindness in other people just by radiating those things yourself.

Where you can go really badly wrong, is to mess with someone's life behind their back no matter the intentions. So what you can't say or do I to I, do not do.



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02 Jun 2016, 12:43 pm

I'm the same. I can't stand conflict or seeing someone upset, and I instantly want to help them somehow.


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05 Jun 2016, 9:46 pm

Yeah, I struggle with this too. Usually, I just end up sitting next to them awkwardly while they cry if they're really upset. I don't want to hug them because I hate to be hugged and don't want to cause them more distress if they're the same way. Plus I never know what to say. In my opinion, "what do you need?" is the most helpful question if they're in serious distress (i.e. crying or having a panic attack/similar situation), and "are you ok"/"is everything alright" is the most helpful if they're just upset. Sorry for basically reiterating what everyone else said, but this is what I'd like people to say to me if I was upset.


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05 Jun 2016, 10:10 pm

ocdgirl123 wrote:
When I see a person suffering, I often want to help the person and feel sympathy, but I don't know how to comfort them.

I also experience empathy in "baffling" situations. Like last year, I was on the bus and there was a young boy (maybe about 4) who was really upset, I didn't know why he was upset, but I really felt for him. Most NTs would feel for the parent who had to deal with it, but I felt more for the boy.

Interesting. I don't experience that?

I see a person upset or suffering, but that's where it ends. I may have experienced something similar at one point, and understand what they're going through, but it doesn't evoke a desire to help. That doesn't mean I don't help people. I will unless it's not expected of me and/or my assistance wouldn't contribute anything. I'll sometimes offer help and support simply because there's a problem and I have a solution, but I have no problem walking away if I lose interest.

My general approach is to listen and glean information while they get it all out. I disassemble the information and work my way back to the source of their problem, and then formulate a response designed to target that source in the fastest and easiest way possible.



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05 Jun 2016, 11:51 pm

I have the same problem, and sometimes even if I know what to say I can't bring myself to actually say it.


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06 Jun 2016, 12:06 am

I have to know a person reeaaalllyyyy well to be able to comfort them. Otherwise, I just come off like a robot with a bit of an emotional response. I try to get them things like water or tissues or blurt out phrases at them. Basically I just sorta throw stuff at the person and think to myself "this is what you want, right yeah? yeah, here listen to this song I really like that or may not have anything to do with the situation. hang in there, champ. kitten dangling from a rope poster. the sky's the limit. quote the president's speech at the end of independence day. they'll love that."


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06 Jun 2016, 9:06 am

B19 wrote:
When someone is obviously distressed, it is may be more helpful to ask "What do you need?" than the more usual "Are you ok?" Asking for permissions before acting can be reassuring too: ie "Will it be ok if I sit beside you just now, or would you like me to give you some space?"


This is great advice. Whenever someone has done this for me, I have always felt grateful. Whenever I have thought to do it myself, the other person seems to appreciate it.

It's a neurotypical thing to guess at what is wrong, and it's neurotypical social brainwashing for autistic people to try to guess themselves. It's just not very efficient. It works much better for everyone to just ask.



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06 Jun 2016, 9:35 am

VisInsita wrote:
If I feel I should ask, I'll ask: Is everything alright? If the person then wants to talk about whatever is bothering him/her, the decision is then up to him/her. I have made an open invitation without demanding any answers.

And as I have made an invitation, I also have to welcome the person I invited. That means I should then listen and be present. Just to be seen and heard for real is very comforting for most. In many cases that is also all you can do. Just to realize that someone cares for you and thus asks Is everything alright? can by itself mean alot.

In my work I've had the opportunity to meet and listen people of all kinds. I do try not to take sides or positions. But if you know the person better, then I feel it is no sin to offer new perspectives and new ways of looking at things - to have a dialogue.

You can also add hope, energy, joy and for example kindness in other people just by radiating those things yourself.

Where you can go really badly wrong, is to mess with someone's life behind their back no matter the intentions. So what you can't say or do I to I, do not do.


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06 Jun 2016, 4:19 pm

Being there for caretakers who are supporting others is a tricky real thing for me.

The caretaker is my wife who is the main person for her father. (In his 90's)


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09 Jun 2016, 11:47 am

SocOfAutism wrote:
B19 wrote:
When someone is obviously distressed, it is may be more helpful to ask "What do you need?" than the more usual "Are you ok?" Asking for permissions before acting can be reassuring too: ie "Will it be ok if I sit beside you just now, or would you like me to give you some space?"


This is great advice. Whenever someone has done this for me, I have always felt grateful. Whenever I have thought to do it myself, the other person seems to appreciate it.

It's a neurotypical thing to guess at what is wrong, and it's neurotypical social brainwashing for autistic people to try to guess themselves. It's just not very efficient. It works much better for everyone to just ask.


Great advice. :-) I'm learning more and more that the way to compensate for much of my uncertainty in social situations is to ask questions. I'm learning that it's OK to admit that I can't tell how someone's feeling, or to ask first if they want to talk about it or want advice or to hug or whatever. Whether they'll be honest with me is another matter but I have to respect their choices. I never thought of any of this as NT or ASD though. There are oh so many reasons to guess at what's wrong or how to help. There are also so many reasons why I often? sometimes? am missing something. I could share them, though I don't know whether people would relate or be interested, and which ones.