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10 Jul 2016, 12:33 pm

I have a lot of trouble telling things that are literal lies. When I hide things I always prefer to avoid the topic and tell a "white lie" instead of saying something I know is literally untrue. I also cannot lie for the sake of politeness - I find that kind of behavior to be incredibly patronizing.
Do you find it hard to lie? How do you feel if you do tell a lie?


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10 Jul 2016, 1:02 pm

Yes, I do.

Don't get me wrong, I've learned to keep my mouth shut and not be rude. Being polite and if necessary "vague" and a bit unapproachable can help with avoiding white lies, without actually telling harsh "truths".

But what I hate the most and makes it almost impossible for me to be polite is when people expect or try to pressure me into lying and get all worked up if I don't. It's a disgusting manipulation technique and I refuse to comply.

No matter what you do, don't ever marry a woman (or a man, depending) who pressures you into lying in order to maintain their self respect/image.


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10 Jul 2016, 1:12 pm

Yes I generally hate lying. I also strongly dislike myself if I don't volunteer the truth to people who (I feel) have a right to know, i.e. friends. It's easier for me to lie to enemies, because I can explain to myself that they'll find it easier to harm me if I'm too honest with them, but even then it never feels exactly right. It's like a form of violence, sometimes it has to be done but it's always regrettable.

As for social white lies with friends, I limit myself to "discretion," i.e. I won't always say exactly what I think if there's no particular need and if it would only annoy or hurt the other person. Again, it never feels quite right, and I feel that it distances me from others, because they can never know the real me. I wouldn't want to give out compliments that I didn't really mean. My ex used to complain that I never complimented her on her clothes. But frankly I didn't think much to her dress sense, it was too corporate and colourless for my taste, and I couldn't fake approval. So I told her she might do well to find out what I liked, but she didn't like that, and she didn't take my advice.



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10 Jul 2016, 1:15 pm

yep, but not only do i hate lying, but i just can't, i start laughing or smiling whenever i do it, i basically should never play cards.


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10 Jul 2016, 5:23 pm

I'm a bad liar. If I do lie, I feel immensely guilty about it until I end up telling the truth.


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10 Jul 2016, 5:27 pm

I do it when I know what's going to happen. If I answer honestly to certain questions I often cause awkward silence. I'm usually not exactly lying, I'm just not telling the full story. I think it's quite useful under social situations, but I don't like to lie directly.



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10 Jul 2016, 5:28 pm

^^I'm the same.


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10 Jul 2016, 6:53 pm

I hate lying, unless there's a really good reason to do so. Lying for the sake of politeness is not a good reason. Fortunately for me, my family isn't all that big on being socially polite and uptight about manners, so I can get away with telling the truth most of the time. However, my dad was in the air force, and he once had a dinner cooked by a general's wife, and he was told by the sergeants exactly what to say when asked how the meal was, regardless of the quality of cooking. This kind of thing would make me very uncomfortable.



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10 Jul 2016, 10:35 pm

"White lies" are still lies, just lies with a morally justifiable judgement put on them (in my opinion). They're still untrue.
I can't lie. It's a sort of broken reflex or something. It's interesting that when people think of someone who does not lie, they often think of Jim Carrey in "Liar Liar," - someone who uncontrollably blurts out every true thought in their head. Keeping quiet doesn't mean you're "lying by omission," (which has been levelled at me exasperatingly) to me. It often means I am protecting myself and my privacy by refusing to discuss certain personal topics.
If someone was to ask me a straight question about a subject I don't want to discuss, I will not lie to divert them, I'll simply say I'm unwilling to talk about this, or more directly "mind your own business" with some.
I'm always amazed that people lie so smoothly, often for no reason.

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But what I hate the most and makes it almost impossible for me to be polite is when people expect or try to pressure me into lying and get all worked up if I don't. It's a disgusting manipulation technique and I refuse to comply.

Ugh, I get this too. People are ever telling me "just say ..." And when I say I can't say that because it's not true, they look at me like I just insulted them, like I'm being unreasonable. Perhaps people get into such a. Habitual pattern of constantly and pointlessly lying, it's shocking when someone else won't.


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10 Jul 2016, 11:29 pm

Yes. I will not intentionally lie to anyone. Keeping secrets, as long as it doesn't endanger someone, I consider perfectly acceptable, and as teaching myself to be more reserved.



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11 Jul 2016, 12:42 am

Yep, I hate lying and I suck at it.

One time I created a second account on the Flat Earth Society forum posing as a flat earther who thought that computers were a conspiracy and I wanted to see if I could convince any flat earthers of that. My new username was namekim25, and I'll let you figure out how they figured out that it was me within 10 minutes of my first post. I tried again on another forum under the less conspicuous username FEexperimenter and everyone quickly figured out that I was just messing with them.


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11 Jul 2016, 12:44 am

I don't like lying even to my benefit, I'd be a lot better off if I was more comfortable with these 'white lies'



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11 Jul 2016, 12:50 am

I'm not good with outright lying. Sometimes I lie about things as a joke though. You know making up silly stuff.



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11 Jul 2016, 8:14 am

I don't like to lie, I'm not good at lying and I hate it when other's lie to me. It was quite annoying, in the past, when I regularly had to deal with some people who seemed very truth-impaired.



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11 Jul 2016, 8:21 am

I hate lying. I don't see the point in having to maintain some facade when you can just tell the truth. There are times I have avoided a subject when I know it will be contentious but if it's brought up I still tell the truth.



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11 Jul 2016, 3:56 pm

I don't like to make up stories or to deceive people but if it's something I am embarrassed about or if it's not going to hurt anyone, I don't mind it. Like if someone asks me where a place is at, since I am bad at giving directions, I just say "I don't know" because it's better than giving out the wrong directions and then realizing I had a brain fart and then I feel bad because I had unintentionally lied to someone so it's better if I say "I don't know" and I don't want to talk about my difficulty with giving out directions and then having all these words stuck in my brain and not being able to express myself properly so saying "I don't know" is a lot easier and the situation is over and done with. As a parent I am realizing how it's easier to just lie to your kids than being truthful or else you end up with a bunch of questions being asked and them not listening and them not accepting your answers so it's better to say things so they do accept it and the whole situation is over and done with. Plus it's also about their level of understanding and you will end up with a bunch of "whats" if you try and explain it to them. Many people don't consider these as lies. My husband is better at it than me so he does it and I go along with it.


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