Aspies aspies aspies , ! What's the deal here ?

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Adamantium ,
"The spectrum is broad. Autistic people and their parents face diverse problems. Trying to reduce it to "challenges that are faced by all...." . You said it all ,that what I wanted to say : discuss ALL the issues ,we all know their recognized thresholds . Thank you .

OP, what is you first language? I think some of the nuance of what you are saying is getting lost in translation.

What I am hearing you say is that you have an autistic child and would like help understanding what this involves. Well, there is no easy answer to that. Are you having a specific issue that you could share and maybe we could offer comments on your situation.

Well, father, given your somewhat confrontational original post, you have had about as broad a spectrum of responses as you deserve and are likely to get on Wrong Planet. I'm quite impressed, actually - you've even managed to upset some of the more patient members, and that takes some doing.

Perhaps I'm stupid, but I haven't understood any of your posts, or worked out quite what it is you want from us. Neither has my cat. But please don't try and enlighten me, life is too short.

I don't understand what you are trying to communicate.

You seem to not to have understood the language you are quoting and the structure of your reply leaves me guessing as to your meaning.

What do you mean when you said "We all know their recognized thresholds?"

What are the issues that you feel need to be discussed?

Instead of telling the community as whole, "you guys are not talking about the right stuff," which is my understanding of your complaint so far, why don't you directly ask about the things you want to discuss?

I can't believe we ended up with three pages of telling this guy that he's being rude! I feel like we would have been better to nominate one person to just patiently explain to him the situation.

Assuming that this is at least a little bit due to a language problem, here's a few suggestions for "father"

- go to your profile account page and click "edit signature." Then add a note about your original language. This will help readers give you a break when you use awkward language.

- stop responding to this thread and instead, start a new thread using the phrase "Would you please..." then list your request. Never use "you should...." This phrase is not appropriate to use towards strangers in English. It's disrespectful to do so.

That's because he didn't get the point when the first person told him. It reminds me of that quote: 'Everything has been said, but not everyone has said it yet'.

The deal is that you don't storm onto an autism site and flash your ego if you don't get the answers that you want. You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.

and stop using this smiley:

I have to jump in here. When my son was diagnosed with autism at age three followed by my daughter, at age 9, with aspergers a little over a year later, I was convinced that there was a significant difference between Autism and Aspergers. My daughter had no language delays and fit the diagnosis of "high functioning" aspergers to a T. My son was only a little verbal, had difficulty communicating anything beyond very basic needs, screamed, got naked, painted with poop, inflicted self harm, and so forth.

Now, at 11, after going through a remarkable play based intervention program, he too would appear to be an aspergian. He has an extremely sophisticated vocabulary, is brilliant in his own areas of interest and sounds like a little professor. Both continue to have some social difficulties - my daugher fewer, but then, she's five years older.

I no longer differentiate between autism, aspergers, high functioning, and so forth. I think that people, regardless of spectrum or not, have the ability to grow and change (see Carol Dweck's research on Mindset - and if you are into math, or education, Jo Boaler's "Mathematical Mindsets" is a great read). Our whole family of four will always be "On the Spectrum," and proudly so, but we, like all individuals, have the ability to grow beyond our starting point and to make startling changes in our capacities.

I am not making claims that a non-verbal child with autism who is completely dependent can necessarily become a fully functioning adult who is able to work and function in the world, but I refuse to rule it out.

The label Aspie might be useful in describing where we are now in our journey, but I don't think it is at all helpful in defining our capacity, or that of any individual. to grow and change.

I can certainly see what you mean.. but I don't think he was flashing his ego around as an excuse, neither do I think he needs a fixed deterrent to function normally.. I think he just wants to add some kind of surplus energy to a forum that he may think needs updating for Aspies.
Must be a fatherly response to lock in some widespread family appeal. He should be alerted to the Parental forum for support.

First , why do every body address me OP .

OP = opening poster, or opening post, the person who began the thread

Thank you .

This is what I initially wrote :"The whole aspie thing has not left any room to talk about those not addressed , or not addressing themselves as such . Frankly I need to be informed if this is pertinent . What makes aspies that different from the spectrum realm , that it has such incessant references ? . Are not challenges initially what they are? What is the justification for differentiation ? Can you please respond in the framework of addressing your impressions as with regards children first , before talking about adults?."
Specific explanation will follow :
1-my sincere apology for upsetting anyone.
2-first sentence I meant; more space should be given to discuss various challenges .
3- sentence starting with ; Frankly I.....;I meant if AS is within the spectrum , then why don't we discuss the spectrum as such .
4-sentence starting with; Are not.....I meant, I wanted to know if their is a difference between AS and other spectrum, a difference that would help me see more sides of the challenges to my daughter,thus trying to acknowledge and benefit from them , in her intervention.
4-I mentioned in another comment of mine; that I invite everyone to participate more in the discussion of the challenges as a whole ( i didn't think that was the case);and I stressed that using the experience of the adults in the spectrum (not particularly personal-as I know that human experiences are of course diversified ) , but in an educational manner to help parents,will undoubtedly be of immense benefit.

That is that .

Ah forgot another point:-
5-About moral obligation.......I said that I can consider advise as a kind of engagement, and I also said ,that it is an entirely subjective matter, to see it in any other fashion,creed or significance.

it's still not clear to me if you're not a native english speaker or if you really just have an odd writing style. i can't understand what you're saying