The Undiagnosing superpower

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Ass backward reasoning.

You have that personality type because you are autistic.

Not instead of being autistic.

^ Haha really?

Anyway you would guess that I sound dumb when I say things IRL and I felt necessarily dumber whenever I witnessed all XNTP(J)'s precise logics and go like "Whoa....see the holy logics Drawyer!" Being ISF(T)P, I have to put serious efforts to weave some low level of logic.

I felt in the magic potion when little, that's not autism and a valid reason for people to dislike me

but undiagnosing wp; here we go, you like talking nonsense like any normal i've met, i see little imagination among these political hordes but anybody can claim being diagnosed, I'm sure they can do that!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxZWdGOwLFI

I an not fond of both but there is much more evidence for historical figures then that there are many WP posters claiming to be autistic who are not. Autism experts such as Tony Attwood have done it.

Personally I like to speculate about flawed or complicated people such as Richard Nixon. It has to be more then they are quirky.

I don't think Nixon was autistic.

I think he was a very intelligent and troubled man who was quite paranoid

I never read / respond to all the "am I autistic?" posts either. One, because frankly I'm not interested in reading a huge volume of some stranger on the Internet's life story from birth to present day in detail, but also because I'm not a neurologist, psychiatrist, researcher, therapist, etc. I can't "diagnose" anyone, especially over the Internet, and my opinion on whether that person's description sounds like possible autism or not is really irrelevant to whether that person is autistic. All I could reliably say to them is if they are curious / concerned, then speak to a professional and possibly pursue clinical diagnosis. It's tedious to just say that over and over again to every thread.
In a way, this is sort of the opposite to the "undiagnosing." I don't do the diagnosing in the first place.

This is somewhat like the proverbial art of the deal, assuming that the diagnostician has nothing you need or want.

I no more need to hear from a white labcoat than from the peanut gallery, so much as what a person has to offer me.

No moral support, material goods, or resources? Take your number, accordingly.

You know how a person feels, because they tell you so, in plain English, and act according to their personal convictions. Yet, you are unmoved by it. Autistic people should be the very least likely to suffer from disapprobation.

You have seen how Temple Grandin corrals cattle. This is how objective morality works.

I think it's very risky for anybody who isn't a professional diagnostician to conclude that another person is autistic or not autistic, especially when it's based on a small number of observations. Even some of the professionals get it wrong. ASD is a complicated thing, and diagnostic certainty is rare. Of course speculation has some value, as long as it's admitted that it is just speculation. And I think it's important to be tactful about divulging one's suspicions.

We're assuming that his encyclopedic knowledge rivals the encyclopedia.

A lot of people tell me when I let them know of my diagnosis is, "You don't seem like you have Asperger's Syndrome."

They don't realize that people with Asperger's Syndrome can LEARN social skills and appear somewhat normal because of it. I've had to learn social skills like I do with school or like on the job training. Social interaction is just an application of the skills I have.

I'm sure many of you would "undiagnose" me because I've learned social skills, but the problems I have with social skills will always be there no matter how much I learn. I've also learned to trust my gut with certain things and that helps too. I may not always understand people and their facial expressions, but for some reason, I can tell if something isn't right. I don't know if it's because of learning social skills or what. Does anyone know what I mean?

Yep.....I identify with this myself.

I've had to learn social skills via trial and error.

I also learned social skills. I am not sure how different it is for NT kids when they also learn them compared to me learning them. But social skills has always been something I was weak in. I had social needs as my mother describes it. The weird thing is, you can be "normal" and still have problems with social skills. I guess it's like how some people can still be immature emotionally and not have anything wrong with them because they don't have any medical conditions. But I wonder where is the line drawn for when someone has a disorder or a symptom of something. Even if it impacts your life, you can still be "normal" so huh.

The OP made me laugh, but Damnit! I've let my insecurity get the better of me...

...my wife has known me for more than twenty years and my psycologist for five. They know me.

I'm not going to justify my existence to anybody, nor do 'I' feel it necessary to seek a formal diagnosis.

Phew, glad I got that off my chest.

I can understand why it's very annoying for a lot of people here to see the (amateur) diagnosis of characters and people from the past. There are upsides to that line of questioning, though, and most of the time it is just questioning. Typical titles for those posts are along the lines of, "Does [popular TV show character] have autism?" Not, "[Popular character] definitely has autism!"

In the case of characters, I think these questions just come from people wanting to find themselves represented in art. That's just human nature. Maybe a fan with autism is right or maybe they're wrong in wondering if a character is like them in having autism, but it's understandable why they want to relate to characters in fiction that way. Plus, if no characters have autism, wouldn't people complain about that? Trying to represent autism is going to be tentative and awkward in the beginning, because it's probably being done by writers with little experience. Look at the representations of any minority in fiction. It will get better over time.

Regarding people in history--some of these diagnoses may be misguided, but if no one looks for autism in history then you're going to encourage more of the vaccine theories. I recently read that in Boswell's Life of Samuel Johnson, a famous biography from the 1700s, Boswell writes that Johnson would always count his footsteps when entering a room. There's an autistic trait. Does pointing that out mean I'm diagnosing anyone? No. But isn't it nice to see a historical figure with an autistic trait, even though we don't know if he had autism?

Jeremy Bentham is an intriguing historical figure, discussed here
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