Are Americans really more prejudiced?

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05 Sep 2016, 2:18 pm

In spite of slipping, living standards and available resources, I believe that Americans have been more prejudiced, due to their role as preeminent superpower, world policeman, and cultural epicenter. You know uniquely-American foods. We don't know uniquely-Canadian-foods, popularly. Noone is going to Canada, to pursue celebrity status.

But, all America has to offer is image.

More-practically speaking, I believe that acquisitive people will exploit whatever country gives them a competitive edge. Export businesses, entrepreneurial pioneers, and banking aficionados are cosmopolitan.

It's a question of work opportunities, and, unless you have a have job offer, on paper (!), in show business, that mystique is literally worthless. Americanism is like the rhinestone, to the actual cowboy. It is the vacation spot, with a service sector economy, that provides nothing, except for a nice view. You can spend money, here, for so long as we can import things, like the leisure cities of the ancient world.



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05 Sep 2016, 3:34 pm

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In spite of slipping, living standards and available resources, I believe that Americans have been more prejudiced, due to their role as preeminent superpower, world policeman, and cultural epicenter. You know uniquely-American foods. We don't know uniquely-Canadian-foods, popularly. Noone is going to Canada, to pursue celebrity status.

But, all America has to offer is image.

More-practically speaking, I believe that acquisitive people will exploit whatever country gives them a competitive edge. Export businesses, entrepreneurial pioneers, and banking aficionados are cosmopolitan.

It's a question of work opportunities, and, unless you have a have job offer, on paper (!), in show business, that mystique is literally worthless. Americanism is like the rhinestone, to the actual cowboy. It is the vacation spot, with a service sector economy, that provides nothing, except for a nice view. You can spend money, here, for so long as we can import things, like the leisure cities of the ancient world.


Americans think highly of Canada, but the feeling isn't mutual: survey

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2016/03/how-canadians-feel-about-america-poll/

And this only touches on aspects people are willing to admit.



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05 Sep 2016, 3:40 pm

When I talk about image, I am mainly referring to the entertainments and propaganda, which we export.

They're usually demoralizing.

In the words of Russian strategist, Dugin, America is babylonic -- by implication, the Biblical Mother of Harlots.

I believe it was the Chinese, who had a saying about the paper tiger.



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05 Sep 2016, 3:43 pm

American, anti-Canada biases:
http://ruckasworld.com/canada/



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05 Sep 2016, 3:49 pm

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I can imagine that. When you live next to door to a Giant, and the giant has a similar Anglosaxon culture to you you would make a cause out of having a seperate identity from the giant. In contrast the opposite is not the case at all. Americans never think about Canada. Indeed half of the US population barely grasps what "Canada" even is. Marilyn Monroe once said "when they said 'Canada' I thought it would be in the woods somewhere.", and Al Capone once said "I don't even know what street Canada is on!".


Yes, it has a predictable aspect. Since the world began the little dog resents the big. In the past I found the same sort of thing in New York's view of New Jersey. But that was on a baser level. Canada's attitude is more of moral superiority. But they have been a country in a bubble to an extent. Like, with a few exceptions, Western Europe post World War II.



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05 Sep 2016, 3:53 pm

friedmacguffins wrote:
American, anti-Canada biases:
http://ruckasworld.com/canada/


Not sure what I was suppposed to see there. But I can't view a blog (or whatever it is) titled:

CANADA - A tribute to our neighbors to the north.

as a neutral source.



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05 Sep 2016, 4:21 pm

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On the subject of prejudices, this says it way better then I can:

"...But familiarity can also breed contempt and insecurity, and Canadians spend a lot of time trying to come up with reasons why they are not like Americans. Or, just as often, why Americans are worse.

Disliking, judging, teasing and even hating America sadly forms a central part of the Canadian identity, and is a bias that tends to run through most aspects of Canadian society and culture..."

http://www.thecanadaguide.com/anti-americanism


The Guess Who - American Woman

Americans are supposed to be obnoxiously patriotic but this was the third most popular song in America in 1970. Refective of that era perhaps, and perhaps this one also.


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05 Sep 2016, 5:19 pm

If this thread is now going to be about USA vs. Canada, someone should create a new thread so we can duke it out.

However, I see politicians right here in the US telling us that we are not a great country and that strategy will most likely bring them electoral success.

We don't need any Canadian to run us down - we have enough manpower at home to do the job proper.


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05 Sep 2016, 6:33 pm

Compared to most of the rest of the world, Americans are extremely tolerant. Here are a few examples:

1.) You can burn a religious text in the United States and nobody will murder you for it.
2.) You can hold peaceful protests against alleged racist discrimination in the United States without being thrown in jail.
3.) Gay people can get married in the United States. In most of the world, they would be either jailed or executed instead.
4.) We have laws to protect the rights of people with disabilities in the United States including the right to FAPE and LRE in education.
5.) Title XI protects the rights of women in education in the United States whereas women are not allowed to be educated at all in many parts of the world.

Etc. There are lots more examples. The USA is not a perfect society by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a pretty special place. There are few countries in the world that even come close to being as tolerant.



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06 Sep 2016, 1:58 am

I think this whole thread is just an indication that people should travel more and live in other countries for a while.

There are good and bad people everywhere. Go out, meet some, and come to your own conclusions.

(I am not from the USA, I just live here now)



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06 Sep 2016, 4:17 am

PuzzlePieces1 wrote:
Compared to most of the rest of the world, Americans are extremely tolerant. Here are a few examples:

1.) You can burn a religious text in the United States and nobody will murder you for it.
2.) You can hold peaceful protests against alleged racist discrimination in the United States without being thrown in jail.
3.) Gay people can get married in the United States. In most of the world, they would be either jailed or executed instead.
4.) We have laws to protect the rights of people with disabilities in the United States including the right to FAPE and LRE in education.
5.) Title XI protects the rights of women in education in the United States whereas women are not allowed to be educated at all in many parts of the world.

Etc. There are lots more examples. The USA is not a perfect society by any stretch of the imagination, but it's a pretty special place. There are few countries in the world that even come close to being as tolerant.


What total BS. 100% FAIL.
1. Not true. Arizona man arrested for burning, urinating on Bible
2. Tell that to the thousands of BLM protesters who have been thrown in jail, and civil rights protesters before them.
3. Until very recently that was illegal. The US was not the first country to legalize it.
4. Add the right of thousands of disabled people to be executed by the police without trials.
5. Yet after 95 years of trying, we still don't have an Equal Rights Amendment to the constitution.

The US is way down the list of tolerant countries, and it may have been special at some point, but what is special about it today I have no idea. There is certainly nothing on your list that makes the US special.


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06 Sep 2016, 4:44 am

iammaz wrote:
I think this whole thread is just an indication that people should travel more and live in other countries for a while.

There are good and bad people everywhere. Go out, meet some, and come to your own conclusions.

(I am not from the USA, I just live here now)


Exactly, if most Americans bothered to travel outside the US they would find out how un-special the US is. The main thing that comes up is that America is the freest country, which is total BS. When I traveled in Japan and Canada even as a foreigner, the police never even paid any attention to me. I had zero contact with them, except for Immigration and Customs. In my own country I can't travel any where without the police constantly watching me, looking for an excuse to stop me and ask for my papers, and searching my car, including at check points. But the US is the freest country? :roll: Yeah right. The freest country to be to told what to do, what to think, and if you don't follow the instructions, you are free to be executed by a cop on the spot without a trial.


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06 Sep 2016, 5:00 am

ASPartOfMe wrote:
TomS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:

On the subject of prejudices, this says it way better then I can:

"...But familiarity can also breed contempt and insecurity, and Canadians spend a lot of time trying to come up with reasons why they are not like Americans. Or, just as often, why Americans are worse.

Disliking, judging, teasing and even hating America sadly forms a central part of the Canadian identity, and is a bias that tends to run through most aspects of Canadian society and culture..."

http://www.thecanadaguide.com/anti-americanism


The Guess Who - American Woman

Americans are supposed to be obnoxiously patriotic but this was the third most popular song in America in 1970. Refective of that era perhaps, and perhaps this one also.


That was a good time. Patriotism was at an all time low and people were thinking for themselves. Since then Americans have just become a bunch of f*****g sheep, doing and thinking everything they are told to do.

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06 Sep 2016, 5:24 am

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...In my own country I can't travel any where without the police constantly watching me, looking for an excuse to stop me and ask for my papers, and searching my car, including at check points...
Because of your race/religious garb? Sorry, I have lived in the US all my life and have not experienced anything remotely like that. Sorry for the personal question, but you sort of lost me.


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06 Sep 2016, 8:18 am

0regonGuy wrote:

That was a good time. Patriotism was at an all time low and people were thinking for themselves. Since then Americans have just become a bunch of f*****g sheep, doing and thinking everything they are told to do.



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06 Sep 2016, 11:11 am

MaxE wrote:
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...In my own country I can't travel any where without the police constantly watching me, looking for an excuse to stop me and ask for my papers, and searching my car, including at check points...
Because of your race/religious garb? Sorry, I have lived in the US all my life and have not experienced anything remotely like that. Sorry for the personal question, but you sort of lost me.


Try going out of your house and traveling once in a while. Or just stay inside of your house and continue to pretend you are not living in a police state.


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