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23 Jan 2017, 10:04 pm

My mother told me today that as a child after I was vaccinated my personality noticeably changed.

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23 Jan 2017, 10:06 pm

What if it was not the vaccines themselves but more due to unnecessarily added Mercury/Thimerosol ?

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My mother told me today that as a child after I was vaccinated my personality noticeably changed.

Discuss.


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23 Jan 2017, 10:51 pm

Agreed. I don't think there's an issue regarding individual vaccines, but rather how they are delivered.



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23 Jan 2017, 11:46 pm

I personally have speculated as to whether an inappropriate response to vaccinations has caused my body's immune system, along with others on the spectrum, to develop an autoimmune response targeting mirror neurones in my brain. As a child's brain has many more neurons than it will need as an adult, which a pared back during adolescence, then where mirror neurones should have been, regular neurones perhaps may take their place, giving rise to the generally higher IQs found in Aspies and HFAs.
This is only my theory, as far as I know no research has been done into this and I don't believe it ever will be. The reason being that immunisation has become politicised, it has become a matter of dogma and "faith" amongst the medical community and heaven help anyone who even dares to suggest that immunisation may be significantly less than 100% safe. Anyone who does so will be ridiculed for not accepting their article of faith. NB. It would be ethically impossible to apply the generally accepted "scientific method" in the testing of vaccines. It would require human children as test subjects, half of whom would only be administered a placebo and nobody can know who's had what till the experiment concludes and that could take a lifetime. Hence, no test of the possible dangers of immunisation will ever be done.



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24 Jan 2017, 7:23 am

KevinLA wrote:
My mother told me today that as a child after I was vaccinated my personality noticeably changed.

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Mine did too. My mum liked to keep a diary of nearly everything that happened in her daily life, and when I had the vaccine, I kind of changed, according to her diary. I had a fever too, and got a bit unwell for about a week after I had the vaccination, something that didn't happen to my brother or any other kids we knew.

It really bugs me because why does the vaccine f**k up some brains and not others? Why did it have to f**k up my brain? I could have been a neurotypical if it weren't for having one vaccination. :cry:


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24 Jan 2017, 8:10 am

>All children are vaccinated at around age three
>Some children show signs of autism at around age three

That's the logic that these people use. It's the correlation-causation fallacy. Just because two things appear to be related doesn't mean they are. http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations



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24 Jan 2017, 10:48 am

Well you have a choice in the matter. Do you want your child to die from incurable diseases that the vaccines protect from or do you want the "liability" of having to care for a special needs child for possibly the rest of their lives? The choice is yours parents (: No one is twisting your arm after all.



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24 Jan 2017, 10:51 am

I was never vaccinated for anything yet I'm autistic. Anti-vaxxers, I'd like an explanation please!

There is sufficient evidence - with millions of results - around now to satisfy me that they play no part in autism. Other people however, appear to know better.


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24 Jan 2017, 10:52 am

You have to forgive some inductive fallacies in anyone you love. Everyone makes them, except you of course.

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24 Jan 2017, 10:58 am

EzraS wrote:
Agreed. I don't think there's an issue regarding individual vaccines, but rather how they are delivered.

And, ordinary adverse drug reactions (ADRs) tricking parents (and too many clinicians) into believing that what they see within their child(ren) is autism, not just ADRs.


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24 Jan 2017, 11:55 am

This sounds like something popularised by Donald Trump. He tweeted something along these lines:

Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!

Is this really fact, or is this an example of "alternative facts?" I believe that it's a case of the latter.


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24 Jan 2017, 12:17 pm

No, not this again. :roll:



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24 Jan 2017, 1:07 pm

Glflegolas wrote:
This sounds like something popularised by Donald Trump. He tweeted something along these lines:

Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes - AUTISM. Many such cases!

Is this really fact, or is this an example of "alternative facts?" I believe that it's a case of the latter.


Somehow, we always end up back here. It's like the 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon game.

When did he post that tweet? Sometimes people make knee-jerk reaction posts about something before getting all the facts. It's not smart and it's not right but it's something a lot of people do. I've done similar things myself.



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25 Jan 2017, 9:23 am

Joe90 wrote:
KevinLA wrote:
My mother told me today that as a child after I was vaccinated my personality noticeably changed.

Discuss.


Mine did too. My mum liked to keep a diary of nearly everything that happened in her daily life, and when I had the vaccine, I kind of changed, according to her diary. I had a fever too, and got a bit unwell for about a week after I had the vaccination, something that didn't happen to my brother or any other kids we knew.

It really bugs me because why does the vaccine f**k up some brains and not others? Why did it have to f**k up my brain? I could have been a neurotypical if it weren't for having one vaccination. :cry:


Apparently the guy that started the whole "autism and vaccines" thing lost his license and it was disprove. Also my biology teacher said it's normal to get a fever. It's your body's response to the pathogen. Also, do you have anyone else in your family with non neurotypical traits? Even in my family, there are various degrees of attention deficit issues, sensory processing issues, and maybe other Aspergian traits.


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25 Jan 2017, 10:01 am

I have a cousin with mild learning difficulties but otherwise she's normal, and another cousin who was a rather obvious Aspie when he was a child, but seemed to grow out of it through his teens (he was never diagnosed), and now he seems to have a lot of neurotypical mates he does things with and seems confident. Oh and my brother has BPD, which developed in his late teens. Otherwise, everybody else in my family are completely neurotypical, no disabilities at all.


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25 Jan 2017, 10:03 am

I have a cousin with mild learning difficulties but otherwise she's normal, and another cousin who was a rather obvious Aspie when he was a child, but seemed to grow out of it through his teens (he was never diagnosed), and now he seems to have a lot of neurotypical mates he does things with and seems confident. Oh and my brother has BPD, which developed in his late teens. Otherwise, everybody else in my family are completely neurotypical, no disabilities at all.


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