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06 Aug 2017, 6:51 am

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your probably right pieplup ,when posting those observations looking back at that time now I was really quite down and maybe worn out ,seem to go through phases of this and right now i'm kind of ok and not dwelling so much on the issues mentioned, however i'm sure they are still present but my mood is just better . Not sure if it's a coincedence but this time last summer I got really depressed and vacant nearly got back on meds but stopped after horrible side effects and seemed ok once summer turned to autumn ,maybe I prefer the dark coldness of winter seems the wrong way round but i never seem to get too down in winter.


In the far north, suicides, particularly in young men, peak in summer. They just are not getting enough sleep because it is so seldom dark. I've been using a blackout window shade this year, and it helps.



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06 Aug 2017, 7:25 am

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having to think every dam action i make and the never ending searching pockets bag ect for keys,money items that i may have put there moments earlier and walking into the supermarket and then freezing up not knowing what comes next till I work through it in my head. How the hell I've endured this crap for over 40 years

43 years for me. I've just gotten used to getting stuck and having to work through it in my head. At least it can be worked through. I still lose it over the never-ending search for lost things. Its so damn frustrating I have to make myself stop and breathe so I don't smash something. Sorry, I have no advice for you :(



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06 Aug 2017, 7:56 am

That was an excellent video on EF. My primary problems are with organising and planning. I also find it hard to do tasks that require multiple steps.
At school I was disorganised and messy.

Other issues for me are time management and problem solving . With the latter if an answer to a question comes easily to me I'm ok but if I have to really think about the answer I flounder and tend to switch off.



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06 Aug 2017, 10:03 am

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Thanks for posting these! I really like Musings of an Aspie and Amythest Schaber :D .



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That was an excellent video on EF. My primary problems are with organising and planning. I also find it hard to do tasks that require multiple steps.
At school I was disorganised and messy.

Other issues for me are time management and problem solving . With the latter if an answer to a question comes easily to me I'm ok but if I have to really think about the answer I flounder and tend to switch off.


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06 Aug 2017, 11:13 am

I tend strongly away from multi-tasking. I like to stick with one job until it is done, so if I'm active in the shop, the housework is going south. If I have to take a break and work on something else, the first project is really hard to re-start. However, I'm also likely to improve each project as it progresses, taking far longer than anticipated.
Modern life is very hard on ability to focus. If this is a major challenge, you may need to ration screen time and/or take up meditation to make some space available.



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06 Aug 2017, 11:23 am

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Executive functioning, not social skills is the part of autism which is the most disabling for me. Even menial tasks which NT's take for granted are very difficult for me due to the mental resources required. I can't multitask, I have difficulty starting and stopping an activitiy, every task requires so much more mental resources to process and decide how to proceed, I am disorganized, absent minded, poor time management skills, etc etc.

Compounding this problem is the chronic fatigue I endure everyday from a rare genetic bone and neurological disease I was born with. There is not a lot of resources to go around in the first place for me.


Out of all the things that go with Autism, poor executive functuoning is the absolute worse for my husband because it overshadows everything.

People cut him some slack on things, but if he f***s up....

Being late
Forgetting appointments
Forgetting to do a request
Forgets a a birthday, holiday etc..
Can't self start anything without the threat of death on his neck.

Will not drop one task to start another because of an urgent request.

Can make no short cuts in his daily routine, because if he does that he his lost.

Does not follow on things in a timely fashion (calling friends and family)

Everyone write him off as a self centered as*hole. People view him as it always has to be his way or the highway, so they think douche bag.

In the NT world, if you stop what you are doing to help someone else our, or you change up your routine to accommodate someone it means you value and care about that person. My husband literally can't prioritize or just stop doing a task once he gets started without huge amounts of anxiety and fear taking over.

I can take a 5 minute shower. If some calls me up for emergency help, I can help it the door in 15 minute. I do the bare minimum to look appropriate, grab my keys and go.

That request puts my husband in shut down mode. This is how fast he can make it out the door.

15 minutes to wake up in bed.
20 minutes for coffee, medications and more wake up time
40 minutes shower/brush teeth/shave
20 minutes rest because all that has overwhelmed him.
10 to get dressed
15 minutes to panic on Google maps to find the place he needs to go
10 minute before driving to adjust his car exactly so.

1 hour and 40 minutes before he is out the door.

He can not speed it up or drop a step.

Now everyone does not include him on emergency contact forms, or ask him for anything. His family has cut him out of the loop information wise. He had a relative die this month, and they called him a week after the fact. Hurt is an understatement. They figure he has no f***s to give because he never goes out of his way for anyone. Better that he is not there mucking around causing more grief

Noca, you eloquently described exactly how my husband feels.



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06 Aug 2017, 11:53 am

One time, a parliamentarian was in the middle of a two-hour speech, when an aide told him that the vote had already been taken, and he was wasting time. He still had to finish.
I once had a roommate's father, a history teacher, not miss a word of his story when I had to leave the room to deliver a timely message to another roommate. Seeing me, his wife took inventory of who was present with her, and exclaimed "Who is he talking to now??!"
Many people have to start over at the beginning if they spoil a sentence or a song.



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06 Aug 2017, 12:07 pm

Tawaki, it makes sense to leave your husband off emergency contact lists, but not to resent the disability that makes it wise to do so.

However, I've been in situations where my wise and nonjudgmental accommodations of another person's disability have led to their feeling resentment. They assume that I feel angry about, for example, adding an hour to their estimated meeting time. They've grown to expect people to feel angry, and project that onto my purely practical adjustment to their pattern of inaccurate predictions.

I'd love it if someone told me in advance that it takes them 1 hr. 40 mins. to leave the house, no more, no less, and it was accurate every time. If people want honesty, they should gracefully accept hearing some confusing statements.


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06 Aug 2017, 1:21 pm

Mine are terrible. I often, not thats right, always have lots of complicated (to me at least) things to organise. I plan my appointments using the outlook calendar, but then I have data bases and e-portfolios which which I need to complete and my diary gets busy, changes happen, I make a mess of things and then I can't cope. I mess things up all the time. Its been an issue always but professionally, due to lack of my personal supervision I have gotten away with it, manages to cover things up to those who mattered, not now however, I am closely supervised and I mean close and the anxiety has pushed me over the edge. I meeting my boss tomorrow for the first time since I have been out sick, scary and he now knows I am autistic...dreading it. I think I lost my last two jobs, both in the last 6 months because I have been found out. I am in the wrong line of work and my ego needs to accept this.

I become really anxious quickly is I have multiple demands placed upon me, add a timeframe and I struggle. I would prefer to organise myself my own way, finish each task completely before moving on the next. In the role thats not possible the way things are done and I panic. I am a notorious flapper, a panicker. I will walk in and out of the house several times getting into a state to make sure I have everything ready for the day, and then still lose or forget things, I leave things behind when I leave again and then have to go back for them (120 miles round trip for a laptop cable last time)

Oh and if I get interuped doing a task I find it difficult to get stuck back into it...one task at a time please!!


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06 Aug 2017, 2:04 pm

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Mine are terrible. I often, not thats right, always have lots of complicated (to me at least) things to organise. I plan my appointments using the outlook calendar, but then I have data bases and e-portfolios which which I need to complete and my diary gets busy, changes happen, I make a mess of things and then I can't cope. I mess things up all the time. Its been an issue always but professionally, due to lack of my personal supervision I have gotten away with it, manages to cover things up to those who mattered, not now however, I am closely supervised and I mean close and the anxiety has pushed me over the edge. I meeting my boss tomorrow for the first time since I have been out sick, scary and he now knows I am autistic...dreading it. I think I lost my last two jobs, both in the last 6 months because I have been found out. I am in the wrong line of work and my ego needs to accept this.

I become really anxious quickly is I have multiple demands placed upon me, add a timeframe and I struggle. I would prefer to organise myself my own way, finish each task completely before moving on the next. In the role thats not possible the way things are done and I panic. I am a notorious flapper, a panicker. I will walk in and out of the house several times getting into a state to make sure I have everything ready for the day, and then still lose or forget things, I leave things behind when I leave again and then have to go back for them (120 miles round trip for a laptop cable last time)

Oh and if I get interuped doing a task I find it difficult to get stuck back into it...one task at a time please!!


Good luck meeting your boss! I hope it goes well for you :D .


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06 Aug 2017, 8:17 pm

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I understand how aspergers affects most folks on a daily basis with relationships and connecting with people and anxiety issues plus depression which I suffer them all but the real overlying problem for me which keeps me from doing much at all is executive function issues and having to think every dam action i make and the never ending searching pockets bag ect for keys,money items that i may have put there moments earlier and walking into the supermarket and then freezing up not knowing what comes next till I work through it in my head. How the hell I've endured this crap for over 40 years I don't Know and I can't see it changing.Reading this forum I'm assuming most aspies can't be suffering this problem or do they? is it only a small amount of aspies with function issues as i'm sure more people would find this the most major issue in their life as I know it takes up all my brain power just to do standard things nt's wouldn't even think about.
that's because it's more just a thing you just deal with rather than a thing you need help to deal with. I experience this all the time but since I experience all the time it doesn't seem as important as something I don't but causes me trouble. It's not that it doesn't come up it's just that people don't have as big of a problem with it. I mean I can't handle more than 2 steps at a time or I forget all the steps. I even lose everything. Partially because I'm really bad at looking at stuff. Do to being able to only see details. It's also that since people deal with it all the time They have developed their own ways to deal with it. Like for losing stuff. I always sub-consciously check to see if I lost the things that are most important to me. This helps when I'm out in public. I still have problems at my house, though. I generally ask other people to help me look for things. Though depending on your situation you might not be able to do this. It doesn't seem like as big of a deal because you experience it all the time. It does come up from time to time though. You just need to do a bit of searching. Again though it doesn't come up nearly as often as say meltdowns or self-harming, especially social issues. Although I personally don't use them lists calanders and etc. can help. Short term memory problems are the worst. Especially during burnout. Did something happen that has to do with it?

Well said (despite your spelling and punctuation...sorry I can't help it). Perhaps I shouldn't be but I'm a little surprised - and even a little impressed - given your age.



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08 Aug 2017, 5:44 pm

I have difficulty being on time for appointments and deadlines. Because I cannot estimate how long any task may take, or estimate how much time is passing, or stop one task to start another quickly, I must complete each step - of only the timed task - as soon as physically possible (including always arriving absurdly early to appointments) then wait idly until I can do more. This results in a lot of wasted time where I do no other work, or have fun, while I wait. It even hurts my sleep the night before an appointment.

I have difficulty completing tasks. Because I cannot automate even basic, routine tasks, or multitask, I must consciously complete every task one at a time. This results in a drain on temporal and mental resources which results in me becoming more and more absent-minded. Because this makes me slow and mentally exhausted, I must neglect everything but top priority.

I have difficulty not losing things, or finding lost things. Because I cannot keep track of many things, I must keep things together in groups and attached to me so I cannot put them down. This results in me not being able to adjust what I bring for different needs. Because I cannot scan an area when I lose something, I must always put and keep things in "their place". This results in me not being able to allow for other people touching my things.


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09 Aug 2017, 11:38 am

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I understand how aspergers affects most folks on a daily basis with relationships and connecting with people and anxiety issues plus depression which I suffer them all but the real overlying problem for me which keeps me from doing much at all is executive function issues and having to think every dam action i make and the never ending searching pockets bag ect for keys,money items that i may have put there moments earlier and walking into the supermarket and then freezing up not knowing what comes next till I work through it in my head. How the hell I've endured this crap for over 40 years I don't Know and I can't see it changing.Reading this forum I'm assuming most aspies can't be suffering this problem or do they? is it only a small amount of aspies with function issues as i'm sure more people would find this the most major issue in their life as I know it takes up all my brain power just to do standard things nt's wouldn't even think about.
that's because it's more just a thing you just deal with rather than a thing you need help to deal with. I experience this all the time but since I experience all the time it doesn't seem as important as something I don't but causes me trouble. It's not that it doesn't come up it's just that people don't have as big of a problem with it. I mean I can't handle more than 2 steps at a time or I forget all the steps. I even lose everything. Partially because I'm really bad at looking at stuff. Do to being able to only see details. It's also that since people deal with it all the time They have developed their own ways to deal with it. Like for losing stuff. I always sub-consciously check to see if I lost the things that are most important to me. This helps when I'm out in public. I still have problems at my house, though. I generally ask other people to help me look for things. Though depending on your situation you might not be able to do this. It doesn't seem like as big of a deal because you experience it all the time. It does come up from time to time though. You just need to do a bit of searching. Again though it doesn't come up nearly as often as say meltdowns or self-harming, especially social issues. Although I personally don't use them lists calanders and etc. can help. Short term memory problems are the worst. Especially during burnout. Did something happen that has to do with it?

Well said (despite your spelling and punctuation...sorry I can't help it). Perhaps I shouldn't be but I'm a little surprised - and even a little impressed - given your age.
I can't help it. I'm dysgraphic. Age doesn't really mean much when you're autistic. I mean you should know that.


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12 Jan 2018, 8:46 am

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Thanks for the replies, I guess i've always lived like this so just didn't even notice or it almost seemed normal for me ,however for some reason recently this has really got to me and now i notice it all the time & it really gets me down not even knowing a way of improving this ,not sure if meds would help my scatter brain and it makes me feel like not bothering to do much as I can never win ,in fact as i'm getting older I think it's getting worse as I get more exhausted quicker.Not sure if anyone has some methods or potions to help?.


There are small things I've found to help with particular problems. The "where are the keys" problem at work: I now have them on a cord around my neck.

Since my neck luckily stays attached, the keys do too!

Regularly using a few of my "spoons" to de-clutter and reduce my possessions seems to be helping some... when I have enough spoons to remember to do that... it's sort of a circular problem!



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Regularly using a few of my "spoons" to de-clutter and reduce my possessions seems to be helping some... when I have enough spoons to remember to do that... it's sort of a circular problem!


What are "spoons?" I limit my supply of cutlery, etc, so that it can all fit in a dish drying rack and never overflow the sink.



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Regularly using a few of my "spoons" to de-clutter and reduce my possessions seems to be helping some... when I have enough spoons to remember to do that... it's sort of a circular problem!


What are "spoons?" I limit my supply of cutlery, etc, so that it can all fit in a dish drying rack and never overflow the sink.


"Spoons" is a catch-word within the chronically ill community. I think it's a way of denoting the way that people with chronic illness have to measure out in small portions the limited energy they have in "spoonfuls." I've seen it used among the mentally disordered as well recently.


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