How do you feel about 'The Good Doctor'?

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12 Dec 2017, 3:45 am

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Freddie Highmore has been nominated for a Golden Globe award for his portrayal.

Good for him


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12 Dec 2017, 11:37 am

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I am really enjoying the show and have liked watching Shaun progress from just suctioning to actual cutting and performing surgery.

But I question why he has such difficulties socialising and knowing what to say to people when he has been through med school. Surely he learnt something there about others?


Because it's a TV show and not reality. In the very first season I thought he was the best and then he seemed to get more and more autistic in each episode. That is how it looked to me.


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12 Dec 2017, 1:15 pm

The Musings Of The Lost wrote:
So far i think it is pretty good. The producers have been pretty clear that Dr Murphy is not meant to represent autistic people, but I wouldn't mind personally if he did. I find the character a lot more relateable than most other characters.
He is also basically what I want to be when I am an adult. I can't exactly change the autistic part but a surgeon is my goal.
So how do you guys feel about it?


I strongly dislike the show.

It WILL help perpetuate the general public's lack of understanding of ASD and how it manifests itself in behaviour.

The producers COULD have fashioned an accurate portrayal of ASD and STILL had a successful show, but they deliberately chose a false representation of ASD.



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12 Dec 2017, 11:06 pm

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The Musings Of The Lost wrote:
So far i think it is pretty good. The producers have been pretty clear that Dr Murphy is not meant to represent autistic people, but I wouldn't mind personally if he did. I find the character a lot more relateable than most other characters.
He is also basically what I want to be when I am an adult. I can't exactly change the autistic part but a surgeon is my goal.
So how do you guys feel about it?


I strongly dislike the show.

It WILL help perpetuate the general public's lack of understanding of ASD and how it manifests itself in behaviour.

The producers COULD have fashioned an accurate portrayal of ASD and STILL had a successful show, but they deliberately chose a false representation of ASD.


ASD affects everyone differently. There will never be a portray that is accurate to everyone with it. This portrayal is accurate to me, so I found it relateable and enjoyable. It is not accurate to you, so you don't.


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13 Dec 2017, 5:28 am

Something like Motzart and the Whale was better in that it had several characters on the spectrum. So several very different but also similar characters were portrayed.

With Good Doctor you have only one example. It's how autism affects that character specifically, rather than representing everyone else on the spectrum.

One can't really compare themselves to the character and decide how authentic the character is based on how autism affects them personally.



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14 Dec 2017, 1:29 am

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Something like Motzart and the Whale was better in that it had several characters on the spectrum. So several very different but also similar characters were portrayed.

With Good Doctor you have only one example. It's how autism affects that character specifically, rather than representing everyone else on the spectrum.

One can't really compare themselves to the character and decide how authentic the character is based on how autism affects them personally.

Precisely


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16 Dec 2017, 3:12 pm

My mother and I cannot stand the obnoxious sing-song voice the main character uses! First of all, if you want to go with stereotypes about abnormal prosody in those on the spectrum, it would have made more sense to choose a monotone. Secondly, the pitch is just so grating! We make fun of it all the time. :lol: We often quote (in the sing-song, of course) the stereotyped line from the one episode where he says, "I don't need love!"

The other thing that is greatly flawed about the ASD aspect of the show is, as others have said, the severity of Shaun's symptoms. I'm sorry, but it is completely unrealistic that somebody with that severe of ASD would have made it through medical school and to residency without learning how to compensate. He often yells at and lectures patients, which would not be allowed or accepted!

I was enjoying the show at the beginning for the medical cases. (I've always been unimpressed with the portrayal of ASD.) The medicine was actually pretty accurate and descriptive at first, but the last few episodes have just been riddled with plot holes and inconsistency, even with the medicine. So, I've begun watching it more so to laugh at it and pick it apart. :lol: Medical science has always been one of my special interests, ever since I was a toddler, and it is what my career is based off of, so I do like how this show has been more about the medicine rather than the characters' relationships like it was on ER or Gray's Anatomy.

I think Shaun being called a "savant" is also unrealistic. So far, I have not seen anything other than a form of photographic memory for what he's read. I have a form of photographic memory for what I read, and I see no difference between Shaun and myself. And I'm certainly not savant level! It's not like he's reciting full pages from his textbooks like Kim Peek. He's merely "seeing" images of the pages he's read in his mind's eye. Anyway, I'm highly unimpressed with the show, and the fact that it's surging in popularity with NTs means that it's bound to be spreading stereotypes as others have mentioned.



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21 Jan 2018, 3:29 am

EzraS wrote:
Something like Motzart and the Whale was better in that it had several characters on the spectrum. So several very different but also similar characters were portrayed.

With Good Doctor you have only one example. It's how autism affects that character specifically, rather than representing everyone else on the spectrum.

One can't really compare themselves to the character and decide how authentic the character is based on how autism affects them personally.


Good point.

Now I must look up Mozart and the Whale, to watch.


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21 Jan 2018, 3:44 am

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My mother and I cannot stand the obnoxious sing-song voice the main character uses! First of all, if you want to go with stereotypes about abnormal prosody in those on the spectrum, it would have made more sense to choose a monotone. Secondly, the pitch is just so grating! We make fun of it all the time. :lol:



Gee thanks. I just feel so good about myself right now. I have the added special extra of a stutter to go with the grating pitch and sing-song prosody. Maybe I should just STFU. I wouldn't want to be obnoxious :|


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22 Jan 2018, 1:28 am

I savagely poked fun at the Dr. Murphy character in my review on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3DjXtrbfRc

Mind you that I studied a bit of filmmaking and have a general loathing of Hollywood. But I find the writing on the series terribly lazy. ALL the characters are one-dimensional and sourced from central casting. It would of worked better as a quirky medical comedy-drama like St. Elsewhere instead of a bad soap opera.

The comments on my vid are "it's a TV show, not reality". But characters and plots can be realistic and believable. "ER" was a great medical show with complex characters and story. "The Good Doctor" should not of made it past the pilot. The only thing going for it is a lead heroic character with ASD. Remove that and it's a forgettable series.

Can we get rid of the damn CSI-style graphics??! ! Please???

It's cringey beyond belief because it could of been so much more. Yet we'll take it because it's a stepping stone to better lead characters with ASD. Much like the 1970s were the beginning of better times for African-American characters leading up to the 1980s with The Cosby Show, we'll get a better lead character with ASD as we demand better.

If you want better TV and movies with characters on the spectrum, sharpen your pencils. Write our own scripts. Cameras are relatively cheap and there's free editing software. The situation isn't going to get better unless we take matters in our own hands.



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22 Jan 2018, 3:02 am

Someone told me they could tell they were not autistic from watching the show. Yet isn't it just one scriptwriter's idea of what an autistic person is like, or am I missing something?



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22 Jan 2018, 1:50 pm

I kind of have mixed feelings about it. There are things I like and things I don't like about it, but I don't expect any portrayal of ASD to be perfect. We are all different, after all, so no one will ever be able to make a character who we can all relate to 100%. I do find him to be a way better example than how ASD is usually portrayed though (for example, Sheldon Cooper, who is the obnoxious laughing stock), so I think it's a step in the right direction.


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22 Jan 2018, 2:03 pm

I should mention one thing as it may make me biased. I am an Aspie who is interested in pursuing medicine one day, and I was called "stupid" and another word I dare not mention throughout most of my childhood. What I do like about the show is how it shows that someone with ASD can get through something as rigorous as medical school, can achieve great things, and, contrary to popular opinion, can be just as intelligent or more than some who is NT. This is more of a personal thing, though.


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22 Jan 2018, 6:08 pm

Stradaniye wrote:
I should mention one thing as it may make me biased. I am an Aspie who is interested in pursuing medicine one day, and I was called "stupid" and another word I dare not mention throughout most of my childhood. What I do like about the show is how it shows that someone with ASD can get through something as rigorous as medical school, can achieve great things, and, contrary to popular opinion, can be just as intelligent or more than some who is NT. This is more of a personal thing, though.



My GP is an Aspie. We have never discussed it but he set my A-dar off the first time I saw him and everything he does and says just screams Aspie and he is totally accepting of my autism. He is one of the few Dr's who doesn't assume that because I'm weird I must be stupid too. He talks 'to me', not 'at me'. I think we need more Aspie Dr's. I hope you get there :thumright:


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22 Jan 2018, 7:07 pm

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Stradaniye wrote:
I should mention one thing as it may make me biased. I am an Aspie who is interested in pursuing medicine one day, and I was called "stupid" and another word I dare not mention throughout most of my childhood. What I do like about the show is how it shows that someone with ASD can get through something as rigorous as medical school, can achieve great things, and, contrary to popular opinion, can be just as intelligent or more than some who is NT. This is more of a personal thing, though.



My GP is an Aspie. We have never discussed it but he set my A-dar off the first time I saw him and everything he does and says just screams Aspie and he is totally accepting of my autism. He is one of the few Dr's who doesn't assume that because I'm weird I must be stupid too. He talks 'to me', not 'at me'. I think we need more Aspie Dr's. I hope you get there :thumright:


Thank you! That makes me really happy. :D


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23 Jan 2018, 9:37 pm

i watched only the first episode. i feel i enjoyed Atypical more, i wanted to watch it again but since i dont have cable its harder to access *sigh* if only it were on netflix.

as far as portrayal goes i think its fine. im getting really tired of seeing the neat and tidy ASD guy who shows 0 emotion. the neat and tidy is a more common aspect of ASD (which i am personally a slob) but the blank emotionless i have never seen IRL. every ASD person i met has always been very expressive to the point of over expression. this robot aspect to me is a myth or at least rare. however the difficulty expressing emotion is still a real problem with autism its more expressing emotions appropriately and having a hard time understanding emotions.


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