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16 Jun 2018, 12:30 am

That's cool he opens up more out at the ranch. I'm told I'm a lot more open outdoors and soon as I get home I withdraw into my room. I'd say you have gotten a pretty good understanding so far and quickly. As far as overstaying your welcome, someone shoulda told me about that almost 5 years and 15000 posts ago :lol:



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16 Jun 2018, 9:05 am

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That's cool he opens up more out at the ranch. I'm told I'm a lot more open outdoors and soon as I get home I withdraw into my room. I'd say you have gotten a pretty good understanding so far and quickly. As far as overstaying your welcome, someone shoulda told me about that almost 5 years and 15000 posts ago :lol:


JD does like outside I don't think he got to go outside much before and my family was or is an outside family. I could live at the skatepark or on my horse which is not a normal combination I'm told anyways thanks



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16 Jun 2018, 10:00 am

Ok so new question I keep reading terms like NT and so on when people talk about Autism so where can I see a list of definitions because it is like a foreign language sometimes



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16 Jun 2018, 10:29 am

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Ok so new question I keep reading terms like NT and so on when people talk about Autism so where can I see a list of definitions because it is like a foreign language sometimes


NT stands for "neurologically typical". You would be considered an NT (along with 99% of the population). In my opinion it's a made up term that exists mainly on the internet for people who don't have autism. A lot of times it's used in a bad way like, "NT's are such jerks" etc.

Aspie is for someone with Asperger's syndrome "a form of autism". But the term has been officially discontinued. Now it's just called high functioning autism or mild autism. You'll also see ASD and "on the spectrum" all just meaning autism.



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16 Jun 2018, 11:01 am

The word neurotypical, NT, originally meant anyone who is not Autistic. Now the word Allistic means anyone who is not Autistic. And now the word neurotypical, like Ezra explained, means anyone who has a brain and neurological system that developed normally. The definition was changed because there are many other conditions that can make someone have an atypical (not typical) brain and neurological system. Not all neurodiverse people will be Autistic. Neurodiverse is a word used to describe the fact that there are many people who have conditions that make their brains and neurological systems different, not just Autistic people. So in the world of atypical neurology, there is a lot of diversity.

If you have a list of words or concepts that you would like us to explain to you, definitely post them and we can do that. In fact, it would be great to start a new thread that is for these kinds of definitions.

I love that you think that this is like a different language. Often times when Autistic people talk to neurotypicals, even if we are speaking the same actual language like English or French, we feel like we are speaking different languages because most neurotypicals speak from a social point of view which most Autistic people cannot understand well and most Autistic people speak from a more logical and literal point of view which many neurotypicals cannot understand well. But Autistic people are always expected to somehow figure out what NTs are saying even though NTs are not always expected to figure out what Autistics are saying. So it makes it hard because it can be very exhausting for us to be constantly trying to understand what nts are saying. It is almost like speaking a different language all the time. So it is great that you are feeling a bit lost in the way that we communicate. It helps you have a tiny understanding of what it is like for us most of the time. And most nts will not help us to understand them, they just expect us to understand them without any help at all. So now that you are in that position, it will help you have a deeper understanding and more compassion for Autistic people.

I love how you are learning about Autistic people. Many people just rely on their doctors and therapists to teach them about their Autistic children and never ask actual Autistic people how we really are. A lot of the doctors and therapists are not Autistic themselves so even though the can often give great and helpful advice, they can never know how it actually feels to be Autistic. But you asking questions to us is really fantastic. Your maturity level and compassion and pure heart actually remind me of Ezra when he was your age. Ezra is also wise beyond his years, even from when he was a young kid, (now he's an old kid :P ) and he has a heart of pure gold as well just like you. I am so glad that both of you are here.


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16 Jun 2018, 11:31 am

I am socially awkward person. I always think why I am not able to behave like others. And I suspect that there is something wrong with me socially. After doing some research I am pretty sure that I have a lot of autistic symptoms. I will go for the diagnosis at clinic. But one thing I want to know, Is there any problem if I found on autistic spectrum?Can I live like I was living before?



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16 Jun 2018, 12:06 pm

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Ok so new question I keep reading terms like NT and so on when people talk about Autism so where can I see a list of definitions because it is like a foreign language sometimes


NT stands for "neurologically typical". You would be considered an NT (along with 99% of the population). In my opinion it's a made up term that exists mainly on the internet for people who don't have autism. A lot of times it's used in a bad way like, "NT's are such jerks" etc.

Aspie is for someone with Asperger's syndrome "a form of autism". But the term has been officially discontinued. Now it's just called high functioning autism or mild autism. You'll also see ASD and "on the spectrum" all just meaning autism.

Thanks I have more about some terms but my mind is blank now I will have to write them down



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16 Jun 2018, 12:09 pm

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I am socially awkward person. I always think why I am not able to behave like others. And I suspect that there is something wrong with me socially. After doing some research I am pretty sure that I have a lot of autistic symptoms. I will go for the diagnosis at clinic. But one thing I want to know, Is there any problem if I found on autistic spectrum?Can I live like I was living before?


I think you posted in the wrong forum but from what I read you can and people here will help if you ask



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16 Jun 2018, 12:14 pm

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The word neurotypical, NT, originally meant anyone who is not Autistic. Now the word Allistic means anyone who is not Autistic. And now the word neurotypical, like Ezra explained, means anyone who has a brain and neurological system that developed normally. The definition was changed because there are many other conditions that can make someone have an atypical (not typical) brain and neurological system. Not all neurodiverse people will be Autistic. Neurodiverse is a word used to describe the fact that there are many people who have conditions that make their brains and neurological systems different, not just Autistic people. So in the world of atypical neurology, there is a lot of diversity.

If you have a list of words or concepts that you would like us to explain to you, definitely post them and we can do that. In fact, it would be great to start a new thread that is for these kinds of definitions.

I love that you think that this is like a different language. Often times when Autistic people talk to neurotypicals, even if we are speaking the same actual language like English or French, we feel like we are speaking different languages because most neurotypicals speak from a social point of view which most Autistic people cannot understand well and most Autistic people speak from a more logical and literal point of view which many neurotypicals cannot understand well. But Autistic people are always expected to somehow figure out what NTs are saying even though NTs are not always expected to figure out what Autistics are saying. So it makes it hard because it can be very exhausting for us to be constantly trying to understand what nts are saying. It is almost like speaking a different language all the time. So it is great that you are feeling a bit lost in the way that we communicate. It helps you have a tiny understanding of what it is like for us most of the time. And most nts will not help us to understand them, they just expect us to understand them without any help at all. So now that you are in that position, it will help you have a deeper understanding and more compassion for Autistic people.

I love how you are learning about Autistic people. Many people just rely on their doctors and therapists to teach them about their Autistic children and never ask actual Autistic people how we really are. A lot of the doctors and therapists are not Autistic themselves so even though the can often give great and helpful advice, they can never know how it actually feels to be Autistic. But you asking questions to us is really fantastic. Your maturity level and compassion and pure heart actually remind me of Ezra when he was your age. Ezra is also wise beyond his years, even from when he was a young kid, (now he's an old kid :P ) and he has a heart of pure gold as well just like you. I am so glad that both of you are here.

I may do that with the terms. Sometimes I'm not sure about wise to be fair at first it was get my stuff back. LOL



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16 Jun 2018, 10:11 pm

OK I read this in a post on a different thread I think they are called threads but what do the initials mean

"Anyway, judging by other threads, INTJ & INTP are the most common personality types among people on this forum, followed by INFJ, INFP & ISTJ. So there's definitely a correlation between having an INTJ & INTP personality and being diagnosed with Autism."
what do the initials mean



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17 Jun 2018, 1:18 am

These are communication styles. I am INTJ.
Here is a link with an explanation of what they mean.
At the bottom of the page there is a link to take the test if you want to take it.
https://personalityjunkie.com/02/intj-infj-intp-infp-communication-styles/



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17 Jun 2018, 10:12 am

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I am socially awkward person. I always think why I am not able to behave like others. And I suspect that there is something wrong with me socially. After doing some research I am pretty sure that I have a lot of autistic symptoms. I will go for the diagnosis at clinic. But one thing I want to know, Is there any problem if I found on autistic spectrum?Can I live like I was living before?
Getting a diagnosis does not change who you are as a person. You will be the exact same person you were before your diagnosis as after your diagnosis. So if you were able to live on your own before, you can continue to keep doing that after. A diagnosis will only simply identify if you have the condition. It will not actually change anything about you. If you find out you are Autistic, you might learn to understand yourself better and that might help make your life better because you will be able to make accommodations for yourself that you might not have known to make before. But you can certainly keep living your life just like you have been living it.


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17 Jun 2018, 10:22 am

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OK I read this in a post on a different thread I think they are called threads but what do the initials mean

"Anyway, judging by other threads, INTJ & INTP are the most common personality types among people on this forum, followed by INFJ, INFP & ISTJ. So there's definitely a correlation between having an INTJ & INTP personality and being diagnosed with Autism."
what do the initials mean


These initials come from the Myers Briggs personality indicator.
The Myers–Briggs Type Indicator is an introspective self-report questionnaire with the purpose of indicating differing psychological preferences in how people perceive the world around them and make decisions (definition from Wikipedia)

The different letters stand for:

Personality Type Explained

According to Carl G. Jung's theory of psychological types [Jung, 1971], people can be characterized by their preference of general attitude:

Extraverted (E) vs. Introverted (I),

their preference of one of the two functions of perception:

Sensing (S) vs. Intuition (N),

and their preference of one of the two functions of judging:

Thinking (T) vs. Feeling (F)

The three areas of preferences introduced by Jung are dichotomies (i.e. bipolar dimensions where each pole represents a different preference). Jung also proposed that in a person one of the four functions above is dominant – either a function of perception or a function of judging. Isabel Briggs Myers, a researcher and practitioner of Jung’s theory, proposed to see the judging-perceiving relationship as a fourth dichotomy influencing personality type [Briggs Myers, 1980]:

Judging (J) vs. Perceiving (P)

The first criterion, Extraversion – Introversion, signifies the source and direction of a person’s energy expression. An extravert’s source and direction of energy expression is mainly in the external world, while an introvert has a source of energy mainly in their own internal world.

The second criterion, Sensing – Intuition, represents the method by which someone perceives information. Sensing means that a person mainly believes information he or she receives directly from the external world. Intuition means that a person believes mainly information he or she receives from the internal or imaginative world.

The third criterion, Thinking – Feeling, represents how a person processes information. Thinking means that a person makes a decision mainly through logic. Feeling means that, as a rule, he or she makes a decision based on emotion, i.e. based on what they feel they should do.

The fourth criterion, Judging – Perceiving, reflects how a person implements the information he or she has processed. Judging means that a person organizes all of his life events and, as a rule, sticks to his plans. Perceiving means that he or she is inclined to improvise and explore alternative options.

All possible permutations of preferences in the 4 dichotomies above yield 16 different combinations, or personality types, representing which of the two poles in each of the four dichotomies dominates in a person, thus defining 16 different personality types. Each personality type can be assigned a 4 letter acronym of the corresponding combination of preferences:

Here is the link to the page that explains this
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/type

You can also take the personality test from this page as well if you want to know what your personality type is. I forget what mine is. :D


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17 Jun 2018, 1:02 pm

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OK I read this in a post on a different thread I think they are called threads but what do the initials mean

"Anyway, judging by other threads, INTJ & INTP are the most common personality types among people on this forum, followed by INFJ, INFP & ISTJ. So there's definitely a correlation between having an INTJ & INTP personality and being diagnosed with Autism."
what do the initials mean


These initials come from the Myers Briggs personality indicator.
The Myers–Briggs Type Indicator is an introspective self-report questionnaire with the purpose of indicating differing psychological preferences in how people perceive the world around them and make decisions (definition from Wikipedia)

The different letters stand for:

Personality Type Explained

According to Carl G. Jung's theory of psychological types [Jung, 1971], people can be characterized by their preference of general attitude:

Extraverted (E) vs. Introverted (I),

their preference of one of the two functions of perception:

Sensing (S) vs. Intuition (N),

and their preference of one of the two functions of judging:

Thinking (T) vs. Feeling (F)

The three areas of preferences introduced by Jung are dichotomies (i.e. bipolar dimensions where each pole represents a different preference). Jung also proposed that in a person one of the four functions above is dominant – either a function of perception or a function of judging. Isabel Briggs Myers, a researcher and practitioner of Jung’s theory, proposed to see the judging-perceiving relationship as a fourth dichotomy influencing personality type [Briggs Myers, 1980]:

Judging (J) vs. Perceiving (P)

The first criterion, Extraversion – Introversion, signifies the source and direction of a person’s energy expression. An extravert’s source and direction of energy expression is mainly in the external world, while an introvert has a source of energy mainly in their own internal world.

The second criterion, Sensing – Intuition, represents the method by which someone perceives information. Sensing means that a person mainly believes information he or she receives directly from the external world. Intuition means that a person believes mainly information he or she receives from the internal or imaginative world.

The third criterion, Thinking – Feeling, represents how a person processes information. Thinking means that a person makes a decision mainly through logic. Feeling means that, as a rule, he or she makes a decision based on emotion, i.e. based on what they feel they should do.

The fourth criterion, Judging – Perceiving, reflects how a person implements the information he or she has processed. Judging means that a person organizes all of his life events and, as a rule, sticks to his plans. Perceiving means that he or she is inclined to improvise and explore alternative options.

All possible permutations of preferences in the 4 dichotomies above yield 16 different combinations, or personality types, representing which of the two poles in each of the four dichotomies dominates in a person, thus defining 16 different personality types. Each personality type can be assigned a 4 letter acronym of the corresponding combination of preferences:

Here is the link to the page that explains this
http://www.humanmetrics.com/personality/type

You can also take the personality test from this page as well if you want to know what your personality type is. I forget what mine is. :D


Thanks I guess my thing is i must have been raised weird because everyone seems to label there selfs on here and I have been raised so far that labeling people is not a good thing we are all just Okla I mean like I read even on here people get upset because they are labeled with whatever ,it may be but then they talk about the label they put on there self. It is kinda like me coming on and saying ok I'm A NT native American well (half breed) dad was full blood mom is 7/16 or something and so I'm an HB (half breed) and I put that after everything (and I have no issues with the term half breed) Dad all ways said we are all just Okla (people) and the rest isn't important. Labels give excuses whether it is a good label or bad label. I'm not saying it is good are bad just I do not get it. JD is JD he is not Autistic JD or what every iintales goes with it. My best friend only has one foot he is not disabled Cody He is just Cody anyways I just had to say this because I don't get it and I really hope I did not make anybody mad I'm not saying it is wrong just I don't see why we label every one or our selfs



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17 Jun 2018, 1:40 pm

Cotton you are right when you say that we are just people, Okla. Is Okla the word for people in your tribal language? Is your family of the Chocktaw Nation? I think that is really cool.

The reason we use labels is not to discriminate. We use them in order to identify what kind of help and resources we might need in order to make it easier to live our lives. For instance, I am just Skibum. I am a person like everyone else. But because I am Autistic there are certain kinds of services that I need in order to get the help I need so that I can live my life independently and be able to take care of all of my responsibilities. Without being given that label, I cannot get the services that I need. We also use the labels so that we can understand our specific needs better. If I say I am Autistic, then people who are Autistic like people here on Wrong Planet, or people who are very knowledgeable about Autism, will automatically have an idea of what some of my needs might be and it will save time and effort explaining why I need certain services or resources.

Even in your case, the fact that you are Native American automatically qualifies you for things like certain college scholarships and other services which might be very helpful to you. It also protects you against certain types of discriminatory acts. So yes, even though we should all treat each other like we are all Okla, sometimes the labels are important so that we can get help and supports that we need. We also talk a lot about the labels here at WP to help us understand and support each other better. There is nothing wrong with using labels as long as we are using them for good, like for trying to understand each other and for helping each other. It is wrong to use them for bad like discriminating against and hurting people.


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17 Jun 2018, 1:48 pm

Marybird wrote:
These are communication styles. I am INTJ.
Here is a link with an explanation of what they mean.
At the bottom of the page there is a link to take the test if you want to take it.
https://personalityjunkie.com/02/intj-infj-intp-infp-communication-styles/

They are not "communication styles" per se.

They are personality types. Types gleened from a person taking Meyers Brigg Personality test. Though personality types have differing communication styles.