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22 Jun 2018, 3:36 pm

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@nick007 Im wondering, what are these other disabilities?
Dyslexia & similar related learning disabilities, AD(H)D, a rare low vision disorder that makes me very nearsighted & glasses only help a little & it also includes some colorblindness & sensitivity to lighting conditions, & a tremor disorder that acts up when doing things with fine motor-skills or anxious, tired or stressed. I don't mind talking about this stuff. There's other things I list on my Social Security reviews but they're minor in comparison.


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23 Jun 2018, 5:19 am

in response to the original thread topic:

I believe it is a gift...with a caveat.

IF you can process it all and find application for the internal and external excess of data very very fast. THEN...yes, it's a gift. If you cannot....then you are in trouble. Unfortunately even for the quickest of us, there are good days and bad days. Me...I just live in a perpetual adrenaline rush. I am lucky in this it's personality. For me sensory overload registers as the onset of a thrill and since it is in my character to thrill-seek autism kind of locks in for me as a sort of built in supply of that allowing me to (1) always have that on tap and (2) not need to engage in dangerous behavior to get it.
BUT...when I am forced to slow down (almost always by the comfort levels of others) I begin to do badly rather quickly.



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23 Jun 2018, 5:32 am

That is simular to what I struggle with...except I had no idea I might have aspergers, until I was like 23 and had already developed a mindset that I was just a huge f**k up that couldn't do anything useful. And the trouble is I do probably have taletnts, I just don't know what they are and have never held a job more than a few months...so I don't really know what job I can get to make a living.....college/former education seems pretty out of reach. So I sort of have a plan of just taking whatever part time job I can get....and volunteering in things I care about to gain more experience in those areas. Maybe then people can see what I am capable of even without the ability to calculate math...I really want to work with animals, help rehabilitate wild animals and such. But I almost think looking for volunteer opportunities would get me more hands on experience than traditional schooling. Or at least sooner so I could actually put it as job experience. I mean ever since I was like 7 I've cared very much about the environment, so it makes sense I should get involved more with helping the environment....just not sure how to make a living that way.


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23 Jun 2018, 6:24 am

I feel the same way as OP.



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23 Jun 2018, 7:20 am

Definitely not a gift.

Recently I quit my programming course at Tafe (college) because it was too hard. A few people would think that because I'm autistic, I shouldn't find programming to be all that difficult. I tried my hardest, I wanted to be good at it but I bombed.

I have to look at the good side that I achieved Certificate III in IT. That's something I suppose. But it certainly wasn't easy.

I've never been particularly good at anything. Nothing that sets me apart from others. No talents or skills.

It was no wonder that after I was diagnosed I got depressed and had to be hospitalised for three months. My family was not impressed.

Never mind, I'll continue on as I always have. My next goal is to find a job.



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23 Jun 2018, 10:50 am

renaeden wrote:
Definitely not a gift.

Recently I quit my programming course at Tafe (college) because it was too hard. A few people would think that because I'm autistic, I shouldn't find programming to be all that difficult. I tried my hardest, I wanted to be good at it but I bombed.

I have to look at the good side that I achieved Certificate III in IT. That's something I suppose. But it certainly wasn't easy.

I've never been particularly good at anything. Nothing that sets me apart from others. No talents or skills.

It was no wonder that after I was diagnosed I got depressed and had to be hospitalised for three months. My family was not impressed.

Never mind, I'll continue on as I always have. My next goal is to find a job.



I haven't really done well with programming either. It could be that it isn't programming it's self that I struggle with but rather convention. this would be completely unsurprising to me as I have serious problems with conventions.
Still I am gonna stick with Autism being neither a gift nor a curse (INHERENTLY). and of course I just have my own experiences to go from but, I think it's like opposable thumbs to be honest....useful in principle if you know what to do with them or can get creative with it in spite of the pressure and DEFINITELY a curse if you are bent on trying to do things .....in ways that are not YOUR WAY. I don;t think you can just "FIND" your way or "hope to discover" your way.
You really have to build it and that is rather hard.



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23 Jun 2018, 5:30 pm

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No, it's not a gift. That's just something people like Grandin tell themselves as a form of consolation. In reality, the academic achievements of autistic people are usually done in spite of, not because of autism, unless they have highly unusual savant skills.

Even more so, it's not even a consolation; it's a straight-out curse! Parents of aspie kids often get something called "grade greed". That's when a child gets good grades in early elementary school, and their parents not only take it for granted, but start expecting academic perfection in all grades, in every subject, all the way until high school graduation. Anything less than perfection results in yelling, lost privileges, and punishments. All because the aspie child was "cursed" with getting straight A's in the 1st grade. School becomes nothing more than fodder to appeasing the parents and/or keeping them placated with good grades.

If there's one advice I'd give to my 1st-grade self, or even to all aspies 1st-graders, is DO NOT GET PERFECT GRADES, even the work looks and feels effortless. Make deliberate mistakes once in a while, to give yourself an occasional bad grade, to keep yourself from looking perfect. Because if your parents get the idea that you can get straight A's in 1st grade, they'll start demanding them in all grades, in every subject, all the way until high school graduation. And they'll stop at nothing to get them from you.


I have NVLD and the exact same happened to me. People don't get there's a difference between being smart and being articulate.



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23 Jun 2018, 6:24 pm

New here...

It's an absolute curse to me and everyday I wish for a quick, painless death (why can't drunk drivers find me?). I'm no atheist as I don't know (or care) if "God" is real, but if so I would love to meet and destroy whatever "God" is. I also hate my narcissistic baby-boomer parents and the greedy doctor(s) involved who conceived me in vitro because they couldn't have a child naturally. Yeah yeah, it was my parents who went against God, but still God could've stopped them. I know I sound angry but I'm actually not (anymore), however what I've said is the truth. I appreciate your post and wish you well.



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23 Jun 2018, 6:27 pm

Dataunit wrote:
No, it's not a gift. That's just something people like Grandin tell themselves as a form of consolation. In reality, the academic achievements of autistic people are usually done in spite of, not because of autism, unless they have highly unusual savant skills.

THIS



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23 Jun 2018, 7:56 pm

Hell, people at AA will try to tell you that alcoholism is a gift because you get the opportunity to "heal" others. It's a load of horses**t.



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02 Jul 2018, 6:31 pm

I see it as a two sided coin. It is a blessing on one side and a curse on the other. But in order to see it as a gift, one needs to minimize many of the negative traits associated with Asperger's.


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