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24 Jul 2007, 4:12 pm

Ideas of reference: 4.5 out of 9 (unsure: 1)
Excessive social anxiety: 6 out of 8 (unsure: 1)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking: 3.5 out of 7 (unsure: 1)
Unusual perceptual experiences: 5.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd or eccentric behavior: 5.5 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
No close friends: 7 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd speech : 8 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Constricted affect: 6.5 out of 8 (unsure: 1)
Suspiciousness: 7 out of 8 (unsure: 1)
Total SPQ-A: 53.5 out of 74

I don't understand what that means really.


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24 Jul 2007, 6:56 pm

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No stop taking the test! I don't have access to TM1 site, I waiting for him to reply. The results are wrong.

Ah crap I've messed up everything :x Why did I have to be such a smart arse!?!


I just woke up. :D I updated it. Yeah we will have to refund the money of all those who take it till its prefected. :wink:



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24 Jul 2007, 7:10 pm

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Fifty-five percent of subjects scoring in the top 10 percent of SPQ scores had a clinical diagnosis of schizotypal personality disorder.

This is not very accurate. Simon Baron-Cohen's AQ test fond that 80% of people scoring more then 32/50 has an ASD.


My guess its not just the test but the diagnosis of SPD itsself. It has such a massive overlap with so many diffenernt conditions. Aspies score high on SPD test I'm just studying why that is.

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Also, the test is not working. I answered no to everything and got this score.


Its been updated "no" to everything should score zero now.



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24 Jul 2007, 8:38 pm

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So tell me people, why did you not question the "do you 'feel" this, or that..." implicit in those questions?

I don't "feel", I think...I am autistic!


I did but I've done enough s**t like this to just morph the question into something applicable in my own nature that would be equivilant to the original question asked.



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24 Jul 2007, 10:17 pm

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gwynfryn wrote:
So tell me people, why did you not question the "do you 'feel" this, or that..." implicit in those questions?

I don't "feel", I think...I am autistic!


I did but I've done enough sh** like this to just morph the question into something applicable in my own nature that would be equivilant to the original question asked.


I'm INFP but INTP and INTJ is far more common on WP. I do find myself wanting to say "I feel" often but I have learned to change that
to "I think" as to not come across as too feeling for people here. :D



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24 Jul 2007, 11:04 pm

Ideas of reference: 3 out of 9 (unsure: 1)
Excessive social anxiety: 7 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking: 0 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
Unusual perceptual experiences: 2 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd or eccentric behavior: 6 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
No close friends: 4.5 out of 9 (unsure: 1)
Odd speech : 4.5 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Constricted affect: 2.5 out of 8 (unsure: 1)
Suspiciousness: 4 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Total SPQ-A: 33.5 out of 74 Ideas of reference: 3 out of 9 (unsure: 1)
Excessive social anxiety: 7 out of 8 (unsure: 0)
Odd beliefs or magical thinking: 0 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
Unusual perceptual experiences: 2 out of 9 (unsure: 0)
Odd or eccentric behavior: 6 out of 7 (unsure: 0)
No close friends: 4.5 out of 9 (unsure: 1)



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24 Jul 2007, 11:34 pm

So what is schizotypical disorder? Is it a mild form of schizophenia? Like Aspergers is a mild form of Autism. Is it neurological or is it a personality disorder like NPD or Borderline?


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24 Jul 2007, 11:46 pm

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So what is schizotypical disorder? Is it a mild form of schizophenia? Like Aspergers is a mild form of Autism. Is it neurological or is it a personality disorder like NPD or Borderline?


I think technically it is part of the schizphenia spectrum. Also all major personality disorders might have some neurolgical basis to.

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: Prog Neuropsychopharmacol Biol Psychiatry. 2007 May 10; [Epub ahead of print]
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Prevalence of large cavum septi pellucidi and its relation to the medial temporal lobe structures in schizophrenia spectrum.
Takahashi T, Suzuki M, Hagino H, Niu L, Zhou SY, Nakamura K, Tanino R, Kawasaki Y, Seto H, Kurachi M.

Department of Neuropsychiatry, University of Toyama, 2630 Sugitani, Toyama 930-0194, Japan; Core Research for Evolutional Science and Technology, Japan Science and Technology Corporation, Tokyo, Japan.

Magnetic resonance imaging was used to evaluate the prevalence of the cavum septi pellucidi (CSP) in 154 schizophrenia patients, 47 schizotypal disorder patients, and 163 healthy controls. We also explored the relation of a large CSP (>/=6 mm) with medial temporal lobe structures. No significant difference was found in the prevalence of the CSP (76.0% of the schizophrenia patients, 81.6% of the controls, and 85.1% of the schizotypal patients) or the large CSP (6.5% of the schizophrenia patients, 7.4% of the controls, and 10.6% of the schizotypal patients) among the groups, but patients with a large CSP (10 schizophrenia and 5 schizotypal patients) had smaller volumes of bilateral amygdala and left posterior parahippocampal gyrus than patients without it. In the control subjects, the large CSP did not affect the volumes of the medial temporal lobe structures. These findings might reflect neurodevelopmental abnormalities in midline and associated limbic structures of the brain in schizophrenia spectrum.

PMID: 17553605 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

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1: Schizophr Res. 2007 May;92(1-3):32-40. Epub 2007 Mar 23.
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Associations between schizotypal features and indicators of neurological and morphological abnormalities.
Bollini AM, Compton MT, Esterberg ML, Rutland J, Chien VH, Walker EF.

Emory University School of Medicine, USA. [email protected]

OBJECTIVE: Limited research suggests that subtle neurological and morphological abnormalities that have been documented in patients with schizophrenia also may be associated with schizotypal traits in non-psychiatric samples. Based on the notion that neurological soft signs (NSS) may mark a genetic diathesis, this study hypothesized that NSS scores would be related to the level of schizotypy in relatives of schizophrenia patients and in controls. Additionally, associations between MPA scores and schizotypy were explored in these two groups. METHOD: Twenty-six first-degree relatives of schizophrenia patients and 38 controls with no personal or family history of psychosis were assessed for schizotypy using the Structured Clinical Interview for DSM-IV Axis II Disorders schizotypal personality disorder module, as well as the self-administered Schizotypal Personality Questionnaire. The Neurological Evaluation Scale and a structured examination for MPAs also were administered. RESULTS: Mean schizotypy scores did not differ between relatives and controls. Both NSS and MPAs were associated with the level of interviewer-assessed schizotypal features in controls but not in relatives of patients with schizophrenia. NSS and MPAs were not associated with self-reported schizotypy in either group. CONCLUSIONS: These findings demonstrate that both NSS and MPAs are associated with interview-based schizotypal traits, at least in non-psychiatric participants. Future research should seek to replicate these results in other samples of relatives and controls.

PMID: 17363219 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



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24 Jul 2007, 11:52 pm

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I do find myself wanting to say "I feel" often but I have learned to change that
to "I think" as to not come across as too feeling for people here. :D


Gosh, I do the same thing. I used to say "I think" all the time, but found that people think my opinions sound less threatening when I say "I feel". So I started to use that expression more often, to soften people. Then when I came here, it seemed to me that I might be better off with "I think" again.



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24 Jul 2007, 11:53 pm

A large number of people with ASD's can be falsely diagnosed with Schizoid with a chance to become Schizophrenics. So why exactly would this be on a website where most of the population has an ASD?



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25 Jul 2007, 12:11 am

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A large number of people with ASD's can be falsely diagnosed with Schizoid with a chance to become Schizophrenics. So why exactly would this be on a website where most of the population has an ASD?


Schizotypal is a different condition than schizoid. I put this test up because in a personality screening test most people here scored moderate to high in schizotypal traits. So I'm looking at it in more detail. And presumably since a large percent of people here are self-diagnose there is the potential that schizotypal personality disorder is
a more accurate diagnosis for them. With its similarities to ASD persons with SPD would clearly fall under the developmental conditions that WP supports.



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25 Jul 2007, 12:29 am

Schizotypal "personality disorder" seems to be misleading because it isn't really a personality disorder... it's more like a real weak form of schizophrenia. I never understood what a personality disorder was anyway. It just seems like a way to label people you don't like.

"look at Bob over there! when will he stop treating everyone so poorly? oh he must be antisocial."
"stop labelling people to make yourself feel better, you pathetic narcissist"
"no I really think I'm more borderline!! !"



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25 Jul 2007, 1:54 am

There was a time when i wondered if i was schizotypal (I think they call it Stpd for short), it would be the next nearest dx for me.

The Stpd community is tiny on the net, nothing like Asperger's in size. The biggest group (and it's not very big) is a MSN group. Have a look if you're interested.

I guess the difference I notice about Stpd people is that they're more modest or diffident than aspies. They have their egos, sure, but it's more like an NT presentation of ego, it's well concealed.



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25 Jul 2007, 2:00 am

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There was a time when i wondered if i was schizotypal (I think they call it Stpd for short), it would be the next nearest dx for me.

The Stpd community is tiny on the net, nothing like Asperger's in size. The biggest group (and it's not very big) is a MSN group. Have a look if you're interested.

I guess the difference I notice about Stpd people is that they're more modest or diffident than aspies. They have their egos, sure, but it's more like an NT presentation of ego, it's well concealed.


Thats interesting. I`ve read that people who have heavily used psychedelic drugs such as: LSD have had reduced ego. I wonder if there is some relationship.



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25 Jul 2007, 2:20 am

:lol: I don't know. are people still using psychedelic drugs? much? i thought they were a thing of another era. i could be wrong