Aspergers and innocence, naivete, gullability, etc

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I have High Functioning Autism and coming across as innocent or naive is quite relatable to me. So when I was in middle school, I was the shy quiet girl and I didn't really go out much. I had good grades. People never heard me swear or see me angry. I was extremely honest and wasn't good at lying. I also took things literally and I was gulliable. Because of this, my teachers and peers would always say how I was just so cute and innocent. Fast forward to high school. Still didn't go out much and of course the shy quiet girl again. I would always blush over the smallest things and look away. People still made comments about my innocence. I kinda liked those comments to be honest. They felt good. Now that I'm in college, I'm still quiet and shy but I'm getting better at public speaking. I still come across as innocent to others. I think its because of my body language that makes me appear shy, non-threatening and submissive.

I'm necrokicking this thread since this has been on my mind lately.

I'm still rather idealistic and naive (though more realistic than years past).

Plenty of times someone made fun the way I walked

Lil dipshits laughed uproariously like it was the funniest thing in the world

Crossdressing

They keep calling me "n***a". Once in a while "fa***t" or "b***h".

But usually they just lose interest afterward

That could be a good thing

Some articles claim, autistic gait



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Good for me that the city I live in now is more diverse than uc San Diego

Yeah I agree with that statement. When I was a freshman in high school, my good friend broke his arm and when I asked what happened to him, he said he was attacked by a bear in the woods. I believed him, despite the fact of how illogical that statement was

When I was young, I found the world so confusing that I assumed that nobody would risk adding to the chaos by lying deliberately. My sister had to teach me, so I wouldn't get us in trouble.

I had a similar experience when real young. I was considered very book-smart, and I knew I was, so my whole way of interacting with the world was to tell people the facts I knew. It hadn't occurred to me that people would speak something not to be a fact, because that would just show someone to be stupid. If someone said something I knew was wrong, I would simply tell them they were wrong, then tell them the right answer. When they got mad at me for doing this -- and they usually did get mad at me -- I was confused because why wouldn't someone want to know they're wrong?

Growing up, my older sister taught me the subtleties of "the lie." Over and over, to her advantage and to my disadvantage, for years and years. I slowly caught on to what a lie was, and why other people did it, but could never figure out how or when to do it successfully myself. When I tried to do it, I'd never gain anything the way my sister and others would, and I got caught nearly every time I did lie.

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Yes i understand it is common that the world is a harsh place and hold you down i worry a lot about it even though im female. it is full of bad ones that dont understand so i relate to what you are saying.smiles back ☺

I got my wish. I'm as much of a Sweet Pea, now as I was when I originally posted in this thread.

Unless I have a clear reason to distrust someone, it doesn't occur to me that he or she might be lying. I've been hurt by this many times.

While it's not impossible, lying is very stressful for me, which makes it much likely I'll get caught anyway...so I generally don't bother trying. I'm very honest, sometimes to the point of giving offence.

Innocence, naivete & gullibility are all bad traits for adults and older children.

Unfortunately, we live in a world of predators. The legal ones just want your money & your labour on the cheap or for free if they can get away with it.

The bad ones (and there are many) will hurt and maybe even kill you for fun just because they might think we`re easy prey.

Think I’m joking I knew an innocent autistic man who was murdered in cold blood many years ago when I was a child, near where I grew up, just walking home minding his own business, the guy who did it was caught luckily but he had no motive other than he probably targeted him because the killer was a sicko & thought the man was week & easy target.

Autistic women are many times more likely to be sexually assaulted than NTs because they misjudge bad intentions.

All autistic people should practice martial arts (good for co-ordination too) for self-defence and learn other techniques to protect themselves.

Some of us are physically disabled in significant ways, and in a much older age group. One size advice doesn't work for the diversity of the spectrum. Nevertheless, self protection techniques come in a range of alternatives, not just martial arts.

I think some of the naivety stems from AS isolation, not having true close friends to discuss things with, to get other opinions and feedback from.

AS people are targeted by predatory NTs a lot as children, bullies and other traumatising abusers. But I have never heard of any programme which prioritises teaching them self protection.

I find at times that while sometimes I can be very clued up and very aware, other times I am completely the opposite and many times in the past I have been taken advantage of from work collegues to a devious bank manager who tried to get his hands on my house (When I had one) for his personal gain.

In regards to self defence. I have never really been able to punch. Somehow, I just can't get my arms and hands to move that fast so when I do it is hardly of any concern to the other person. However, this does not mean I am defenseless. It just means that I would be retaliating to defend myself in unexpected ways.

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I've been in some pretty dodgy situations, but muddled through, sometimes with a few words of advice from locals. I'm glad I got out and learned the difference between dangerous, which is rare, and interesting, which is not.

I read somewhere by someone in the special forces the most dangerous situations are those where you dont understand the danger.

The report of the post diagnosis appointment that I received said that as I took things very literally, and at face value, I could be at risk of being exploited by other people .

I'm like this too... I cannot lie for example and I believe whatever people tell me and I can't believe others would lie.

Not long ago I was saving up money for my move. Then the truck of an old housemate of mine broke down. I payed lots of money to fix his truck and he promised to pay me back Feb. 1st... No sign of my money so far. I've had this happen other times too...