Have you ever felt suicidal in your life?

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Have you ever felt suicidal in your life?
I have never felt suicidal in all my life. 9%  9%  [ 7 ]
I have felt suicidal at least once in my life. 91%  91%  [ 68 ]
Total votes : 75

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31 Aug 2020, 7:01 am

domineekee wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
i "passively suicided" for many years via heedlessly unhealthy diet and careless "accidents" culminating in the great mother of all accidents for me which hospitalized me and crippled me up for a good while.

Was that the bike accident? I'm injured since January from a bike fall.

i'm sorry that happened to you :( that was indeed the bike accident where all the GD deer knocked me off my bike. i haven't been back there since. if you don't mind, can you tell me what happened in your bike fall? like your injuries/treatment? had metal put into my elbow, it has not been the same since before the accident but at least i can still use it, poor Bono [rock star] can't play the guitar the way he likes now due to persistent stiffness in his shattered elbow from a bike accident he had in NYC a while back.



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31 Aug 2020, 7:17 am

I hit a bit of frost on a sunny morning at 11am, it was warm but the sun hadn't reached that part of the road. I thought I'd broken my pelvis but that got better after a few weeks. I went back to work and my shoulder started to seize up. I've got a rotary cuff injury, something like a really bad sprain which puts all the muscles into spazm. Apparently it freezes then thaws out over the course of 18 months usually.

Anyway, I guess this is off topic, so I'll add a bit more about suicide. In my case I think that my awful temper saved me from suicidal ideation. I've looked after suicidal partners though.



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31 Aug 2020, 7:21 am

wow :o that is like a slower motion version of what i got. my temper is not to be envied. i wish i could improve it.



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31 Aug 2020, 9:03 am

Pepe wrote:
5 people, on this poll, voted no.
I am guessing they might be theists. :scratch:

I voted no and I'm the most completely atheist person I've ever heard of.



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01 Sep 2020, 6:22 am

Most of us do.

Many religions view life as some sort of lesson that needs to be learned along with reincarnation, with punishment given for suicide.

Just imagine if it was all true and having to re live your life again as punishment because you cut it early.

You’ll find life is short anyway once you get into your 20’s life flys by.

Better off carrying on to its logical end and making the most of things.


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01 Sep 2020, 6:43 am

carlos55 wrote:
Most of us do.

Many religions view life as some sort of lesson that needs to be learned along with reincarnation, with punishment given for suicide.

Just imagine if it was all true and having to re live your life again as punishment because you cut it early.

You’ll find life is short anyway once you get into your 20’s life flys by.

Better off carrying on to its logical end and making the most of things.


I don't believe in reincarnation.
I can go whenever I feel like it.
I don't feel like it, at the moment. 8)



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01 Sep 2020, 6:44 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
Pepe wrote:
5 people, on this poll, voted no.
I am guessing they might be theists. :scratch:

I voted no and I'm the most completely atheist person I've ever heard of.


You're a tough diamond. ;)



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01 Sep 2020, 8:39 am

you will only short-change yourself if you ditch this class early. plus there is the risk of karmic collateral damage.



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01 Sep 2020, 1:21 pm

You're a tough diamond. ;)

Kind of you to say so Pepe. Though I don't see myself as tough for not topping myself.

I suppose anybody who believes they'll go to hell for suicide would be wise not to, judging by the stories I've head of the Bad Place. As for the more common notion that it's "wrong" to opt out of life, I somewhat disagree, with reservations. If I was in great pain (physical, emotional, or both) and was fairly sure it wouldn't get any better, I'd probably want euthanasia and I defy anybody to try and tell me I shouldn't have it. But that's just for situations where there's no hope. I'm lucky that it's never been that bad in my case. I've never lost hope. If I got a horrible terminal disease in my old age then I might. The worst thing (apart from the panic arising from the survival instinct) might be what it might do to the people who care about me. Hopefully they'd understand. I think when my son was young, if I'd felt suicidal them, I wouldn't have been able to do it because of my parental instinct. I hadn't felt the might of an instinct till my own strong wishes came into conflict with protecting him. It wasn't about suicide though.

I've heard a psychological theory that suicide happens when an individual turns their aggression on themselves because it's never worked when they've turned it onto other people or onto their problems (aggression in this sense isn't an entirely negative thing, it's a trait that's essential for solving problems for example). It's a neat construction but I'm not sure it's really that way.



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01 Sep 2020, 11:51 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
I suppose anybody who believes they'll go to hell for suicide would be wise not to, judging by the stories I've head of the Bad Place.


I'm a hardcore atheist and don't let the church tell me what to do, any longer. 8)

ToughDiamond wrote:
As for the more common notion that it's "wrong" to opt out of life, I somewhat disagree, with reservations. If I was in great pain (physical, emotional, or both) and was fairly sure it wouldn't get any better, I'd probably want euthanasia and I defy anybody to try and tell me I shouldn't have it.


I'm in total agreement.
My life,
My choice. 8)

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I've heard a psychological theory that suicide happens when an individual turns their aggression on themselves because it's never worked when they've turned it onto other people or onto their problems (aggression in this sense isn't an entirely negative thing, it's a trait that's essential for solving problems for example). It's a neat construction but I'm not sure it's really that way.


I have been told roughly the same thing where "depression" is anger directed inwardly.
Well, in some cases that aren't a result of a chemical imbalance. 8)



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02 Sep 2020, 4:22 pm

Without feeling suicidal, I wonder how many people have contemplated suicide in the event of physical or mental deterioration. I read that the elderly made up 18% of suicides in the USA in 2019.

I've heard several middle aged people joke about it like...

"I'm going to leave some pills on the mantlepiece with a note saying, if you can't remember what these pills are for, take them"

Apparently quite a few of us do and will actually go through with it. I don't know how to feel about that fact. The thought of young people taking their own lives is incredibly sad, the thought of elderly people, unasailed by suicidal thoughts throughout their lives bolstering the courage to go through with that on their own is also very, very sad.



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02 Sep 2020, 4:27 pm

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Yes. I have have in the past. Half tried. I don't do pain or suffering and don't do blood or heights, and torture to be in a hospital, so suicide... Uhmmm. Well. I am still here! Hehe.

Half tried in the past by tempting fate a couple of times but each time miracles happened which prevented me from doing it.

It was mainly being in situations I could not change and I did not have a way out of. Was situations I could no longer face.


If God was not real I would not be here today.


Personally am glad to to to see you here missed your posts for a while here ,,,hugs


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02 Sep 2020, 4:33 pm

Lololololssss. Am in three of the highest suicide group and I,LL be durned if am going out anytime soon ..
Inspite of having bad days . Or good ones .


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02 Sep 2020, 5:22 pm

domineekee wrote:
Without feeling suicidal, I wonder how many people have contemplated suicide in the event of physical or mental deterioration. I read that the elderly made up 18% of suicides in the USA in 2019.

I've heard several middle aged people joke about it like...

"I'm going to leave some pills on the mantlepiece with a note saying, if you can't remember what these pills are for, take them"


Like James Bond, older people need an escape plan if things go south, like china invading Australia. :mrgreen:

domineekee wrote:
Apparently quite a few of us do and will actually go through with it.


"Our life,
Our choice."
Just make sure it is a rational one not afflicted by mental illness,
or stupidity.
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02 Sep 2020, 6:20 pm

I have. In fact, I've had a (what I call) slumbering death wish for at least 25 years. I'm 40 years old now.
It's like I am not suicidal to the point where I would do something, but I wouldn't mind not waking up in the morning, or being hit by a car, or what have you.
More serious suicidal thoughts do flare up every now and then, as I deal with depressions and stuff occasionally. I find life pretty tough. I feel out of place a lot too. Like it's not my world. So yeah, I wouldn't really mind leaving. I keep fighting, because I would hate to hurt my parents and sibling. Other than that, meh. :roll:


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02 Sep 2020, 6:24 pm

Pepe wrote:
Just make sure it is a rational one not afflicted by mental illness,
or stupidity.
8)

That's very easy to assert but surely feelings come into the equation,
"I feel like s**t and wish to die" being an obvious example. I mean, how clever do you have to be?