Are you missing out on life if you don't party ?

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15 Nov 2020, 7:48 pm

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15 Nov 2020, 7:55 pm

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I did two Kontiki cruises actually as an American. It was a few guys who were the hottest and most social working hard to try to get laid. Locals who knew about the trips would also try to get laid with the girls on the bus in bars. It was actually harder I think than hooking up with local girls at a bar. The girls were hesitant to hook up with guys because unless the guy was high up in the hierarchy, everyone would know, so they had to be sure the guy was worth it for their reputation. A thing seemed to be for several girls to hook up with one hottest guy. The girls were willing to socialize and flirt with anyone, but if you aren't quick to socialize and bond and establish your status, people on the cruise aren't interested in you long term. Very difficult environment for an AS to navigate and tolerate. My sister wanted to go herself but never got the chance and recommended it to me. The girls were for the most part hard to get. The girls were after the hottest guys obviously. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone with AS. It's only good for very social people. But the thing I discovered was that the social 'popular' 'cool' people who on these trips are actually kind of like not that cool in their everyday life and they pretend to be cool when on the trip. In fact, a lot of these travelers are kind of like losers in their real life compared to what they pretend to be on the Kontiki trip. The marketing is for young, hot cool people to have a social experience while travelling, but really it has a fifth grade vibe and the travel is very superficial and you have to bond with strangers quickly in a competitive social hierarchy environment, where everyone divides into groups like in middle school very quickly and if you are not in a group, you can get left out for long periods of time. I had some positive experiences on these trips, like getting to know and walking around with the groups and dancing with some of the girls a few times, but overall seeing the difference between social NT people and myself was very painful and hard to stomach, and I would not have gone for this reason. It's better to go to the gym on a regular basis and stay home in my opinion. My sister gave me bad advice because she does not understand AS and she bought the advertising. Also, Kontiki is 4x times as expensive as going from hostel to hostel. It's basically a simulation of a college dorm party experience on a moving bus or boat. The travel exposure is not very much and most people aren't that interested in the travel aspect - it is all about bonding and partying like in middle school and college - with the alfa male, the alfa female, the closed groups, teasing, the ugly/shy girls getting left out, etc.


Ok so they are still popular. My sister's friend went on one in the late 1980s so that's how I know about them.



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16 Nov 2020, 4:52 pm

I grew up in a small village so had no access to night life, and I lacked confidence and didn't understand myself so spent the whole time trying to fit in so the few times I went "out" I didn't enjoy, didn't know how to fit in, I absolutely couldn't dance or handle being on a dancefloor.

I figured myself out in my mid 30's and realised I LOVE the release of being out and dancing, being in crowded clubs, dancing like an idiot, mosh pits, 3am basement clubs. The only thing I avoid is the blingy mainstream image conscious type places, where you're judged based on "the rules" and everyone tries to fit in. I joked for a while that I was just having my student phase 20 years late, which was partly true as I experimented and experienced for the first time, but it's lasted for like 6 years so far so I don't think it's a phase!

So party if you want to party, don't if you don't, try it and see. But don't let age get in the way and f**k what anyone else thinks (I get that it's not that easy...)



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16 Nov 2020, 5:12 pm

Probably not.


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16 Nov 2020, 6:41 pm

I thankfully didn't have sensory issues, if anything a proper noise wash and flashing lights actually chopped up social tensions and made me less self-conscious, particularly if there was a band, dj, or anything else worth paying attention to for it's / their own sake.

As far as club and party culture goes though? I stopped going to the glitter and alcohol-vomit desert when I figured out that it was the glitter and alcohol-vomit desert.

I laugh actually, listening to one of the skits on A Tribe Called Quest's 'Beats, Rhymes, and Life' where Q-Tip's complaining - he gets crazy ret*d high hoping something interesting will happen socially or with the ladies but never lives up to the hype despite all the promise and he's already too old for it at 22. Lol, I think that's a really common feeling when you've been there a few years and get to see what it both is and isn't. The promise that you too can go Dorine Gray or be chopping lines of yay with Flash Gordon if you're in the right place and the right time is just a great way to sell alcohol and admissions.


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16 Nov 2020, 6:55 pm

Also a good way of sorting someone out if they try to slap you with FOMO:

'Do you know where I was last night? I was at ____ and hung out in the VIP room'.

'Ah yeah? Well I took the best s--- in human history. Sorry you weren't invited'.


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17 Nov 2020, 3:23 am

In my little town, nobody knew anything about autism, so I came to believe that I had to be like everyone else, smoking, drinking, vomiting, dancing, etc. So yeah, I went to a lot of parties in my youth, especially the first three years of uni as I ended up in the popular kids group. Even went to the first dubstep party in my country (way before anyone else knew what it was, let alone Skrillex knew what a DAW was).

In conclusion, it's boring and overrated, but pre-Tinder it used to be the one way to get laid and/or hook up which meant all adolescents with boiling hormones had no choice but to down the bottle. Some also became alcoholics, some didn't know how to socialize without drinking (social ineptitude is not limited to ASD), and some just partied because otherwise people would think of them as, god forbid, "weird".

And to answer the question: yes, you're missing out. Just as those who go to parties miss out on things we do. It all depends on what you want to do, yourself.



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17 Nov 2020, 4:26 am

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Night clubs and similar parties can go one of 3 ways:
1 You enjoy it and learn to enjoy it in moderation. A good chunk of the population are like that in youth.
2 You hate it and never go back or only go back to be polite on hen/stag nights and similar.
3 You enjoy it way too much and become a binge drinker.

If you don't enjoy any parties, again, that's your choice/your life. Although it's more unusual. Did you like parties as a kid? Have you tried costume parties, dinner parties, murder mystery parties, games nights? There's all sorts of parties and some of them I like and some I hate.


I liked parties as a kid because we were always crazy with excitement and I was with people I knew from primary school, I never went to costume parties except dress up at school, and only had games nights with families on birthdays, Christmas etc. As an adult, the excitement I once had was gone when I went to parties because I was surrounded by NT strangers I at times struggled to interact with and approach and my friends were not the clubbing or party-types so I didn't invite them or come along. So it didn't seem as fun anymore because I hardly made friends with NTs who willingly went to a club than someone like me who is maybe unwilling to go.


In my experience, childhood parties are more structured with things to do.
NT type parties for youngsters are for people with really NT personalities. Most introverted NTs can't handle them and most ambiverts can only handle them in small doses. Loud, sensory extremities and no pattern or routine at all.
Things like murder mystery parties are more enjoyable in my experience. You dress up and follow a script. Your friends might like that and you might too. I know I do.


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17 Nov 2020, 4:28 am

Jingo8 wrote:
So party if you want to party, don't if you don't, try it and see. But don't let age get in the way and f**k what anyone else thinks (I get that it's not that easy...)


Just don't be a Wayne Linekar, people call him a nonce even though he isn't breaking the law.


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17 Nov 2020, 4:31 am

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Night clubs and similar parties can go one of 3 ways:
1 You enjoy it and learn to enjoy it in moderation. A good chunk of the population are like that in youth.
2 You hate it and never go back or only go back to be polite on hen/stag nights and similar.
3 You enjoy it way too much and become a binge drinker.

If you don't enjoy any parties, again, that's your choice/your life. Although it's more unusual. Did you like parties as a kid? Have you tried costume parties, dinner parties, murder mystery parties, games nights? There's all sorts of parties and some of them I like and some I hate.


I enjoyed birthday parties as a kid. They were usually held in the day and didn't involve alcohol, and you could basically be yourself. At bars and clubs I feel like people judge you, and they are usually full of chavs that stare at you and you've got to look like you're having a great time otherwise they'll judge you. So it can become exhausting when you've got to pretend you can hear what everyone is saying over the loud music and look engaged and relaxed. It's just not my scene, and the older I get the less I feel guilty for not going to those places.
I'm not saying I'm a bad socialiser, but the last time I was in a noisy crowded bar I felt like I had to wear a mask (metaphorically, as this was way before the pandemic), and I had to consciously keep up this certain impression when in reality I wasn't even sure what to do. I was too busy worrying about my body language and how I appeared to others. After all, bars are social places so obviously you've got to look social and relaxed to belong.


This is how I feel about that sort of party too. Or just going out to pubs to get drunk (only did that at uni).

I go to pubs now but I don't drink/rarely drink. I go to the pub to watch football or do a pub quiz or eat a meal. It's a different kind of pub and different kind of atmosphere and even the quizzes tend to end by 10pm.


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17 Nov 2020, 5:55 am

I don't see it as a must-do, or even as something particularly interesting. I've never gone to a club or party expecting to be particularly interested or entertained by proceedings. I've never been drunk and don't really see the point - if I want my brain to not work properly I'll just stay up for three days straight.

While I have gone to nightclubs once or twice, and endured social occasions at bars, it was purely in the spirit of wondering what the appeal was supposed to be, and I inevitably came away with nothing more than a pounding headache from the noise and a strong desire to wash everything I was wearing twice to get the cigarette smoke out.

I don't see partying as having the appeal that people seem to like pretending it does (in particular, businesses which own party venues or sell supplies... hmm... and people who don't seem to be able to entertain themselves). While there are, no doubt, people who really do enjoy it, it by no means makes the appeal universal. It's just that people who prefer other, quieter forms of enjoyment don't seem to have the corresponding need to blather about it to every corner of the universe. Thus, if all you can hear is people blathering, the prevalence of and desire for parties is going to seem somewhat exaggerated. People don't tend to gush on and on about (for example) libraries, or interesting philosophical books, or museums, or solo nature walks, or hobbies like painting, even if they're personally far more likely to enjoy those things.



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17 Nov 2020, 5:13 pm

I find clubs a bit annoying. I used to go to them with my friends fairly often when we were younger but while everyone was bouncing around the room I was pretty motionless wondering what and where all the fun was supposedly coming from. An entire night where it's so loud you can't even speak to anyone. I never saw the point of it.

The cinema, a trip to the high street, playing pool or bowling, doing doughnuts around roundabouts in the early morning when nobody is on the road? Now that's a lot better when friends are around.



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17 Nov 2020, 5:18 pm

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I find clubs a bit annoying. I used to go to them with my friends fairly often when we were younger but while everyone was bouncing around the room I was pretty motionless wondering what and where all the fun was supposedly coming from. An entire night where it's so loud you can't even speak to anyone. I never saw the point of it.


That's the point of it. That's the fun. Ever been to a concert? Yes, moshing might make it harder to pay attention to the band or to have a conversation but those criticisms miss the point. Dancing is fun, some people don't care about paying attention to the musicianship or talking the people, they're there to dance. :nerdy:


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17 Nov 2020, 5:23 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Also a good way of sorting someone out if they try to slap you with FOMO:

'Do you know where I was last night? I was at ____ and hung out in the VIP room'.

'Ah yeah? Well I took the best s--- in human history. Sorry you weren't invited'.
What is FOMO?


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17 Nov 2020, 5:29 pm

skibum wrote:
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Also a good way of sorting someone out if they try to slap you with FOMO:

'Do you know where I was last night? I was at ____ and hung out in the VIP room'.

'Ah yeah? Well I took the best s--- in human history. Sorry you weren't invited'.
What is FOMO?


Fear Of Missing Out.


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17 Nov 2020, 5:43 pm

shortfatbalduglyman wrote:
Life contains numerous activities

It is not possible to do all of them

Thus everyone is missing out on life


yes. i like your logic....

every one is presently missing out on eating the cheese sandwich that i am presently eating...mmmm.
sorry the universe has to miss out but this one is for me!