How to stop slamming your head/body parts against the wall?

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14 Jan 2021, 10:36 pm

A friend of mine has meltdown/overload issues and the only thing that seems to help him is slamming his head against the wall or sometimes if he is lucky, his hands. I’m really worried about him and was wondering if anyone had any tips to prevent those and any tips on how to vent out those emotions without hurting himself like that or at least hurting himself less.



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14 Jan 2021, 10:54 pm

I'm genuinely embarrassed to mention this, but I've given myself concussions once or twice during my worst meltdowns, and once hurt my hand really bad. I don't really have any good tips for how to vent other ways in the moment because when I had meltdowns like that I didn't think anything through during it, so I couldn't think of alternatives at all. I haven't had a meltdown like that in a long time though because I learned what exactly was causing them, and how to avoid having one and how to not let things build up like that in the first place.



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14 Jan 2021, 11:04 pm

I punched and slammed my head last weekend. It was the first time I've done that for a long time, and I wasn't proud of myself but I couldn't stop it.

alobaby, All you can do is hope that your friend is in a safe place when a meltdown occurs in your presence. Let them know that you understand what a meltdown is, and that you care about their safety. I think that's the best form of support that anyone who experiences meltdowns can receive. If someone told me how to have a meltdown, or tried to change my behaviours under pressure, I'd feel misunderstood. If they talked to me at a calm time and expressed emotional support / understanding overall, I'd feel much better -- even if it didn't change my instincts during a meltdown.

HeroOfHyrule, :( I'm sorry to hear that.


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14 Jan 2021, 11:18 pm

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I punched and slammed my head last weekend. It was the first time I've done that for a long time, and I wasn't proud of myself but I couldn't stop it.

alobaby, All you can do is hope that your friend is in a safe place when a meltdown occurs in your presence. Let them know that you understand what a meltdown is, and that you care about their safety. I think that's the best form of support that anyone who experiences meltdowns can receive. If someone told me how to have a meltdown, or tried to change my behaviours under pressure, I'd feel misunderstood. If they talked to me at a calm time and expressed emotional support / understanding overall, I'd feel much better -- even if it didn't change my instincts during a meltdown.

HeroOfHyrule, :( I'm sorry to hear that.

I think this is really good, realistic advice. In my experience you can't always control what you do during a meltdown, so for a lot of people there's not much you can "do" when one happens, if you can't prevent one/prevent it from getting that bad. You can kind of just find a "safe" place to do it (if you can even get to one) and that's it.

Whenever people recognize that I can't really control what I'm doing when I have a meltdown like that it makes me feel a lot more supported and actually helps me deal with my meltdowns better, because I don't immediately focus on being embarrassed about what I did afterwards and then continue to work myself up.



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14 Jan 2021, 11:54 pm

Would it help to develop a deliberate non-harmful stim?
Like waving arms and jumping around or anything like that.
If it gets deliberately practiced whenever your friend is feeling upset, possibly it might become the go-to before more damaging behaviours?
Not sure though, just thought it might be worth a try.



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15 Jan 2021, 12:22 am

the only thing that kept me from melting down was physically exhausting myself through exercise.



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15 Jan 2021, 1:29 am

For each day that you don't harm yourself, you could give yourself a little reward.


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15 Jan 2021, 1:33 am

i try to reward myself often just for continuing to exist in this hellworld.



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15 Jan 2021, 1:51 am

auntblabby wrote:
i try to reward myself often just for continuing to exist in this hellworld.


I do the same thing.


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15 Jan 2021, 6:09 am

part of meltdowns and self injuring has to do with "interoception", the ability to recognize your emotions (anger, embarrassment. disappointment, frustration,etc) before your emotions overwhelm you. (generic you, meaning a person) Then new ways to deal with the emotions can be learned.
Therapy is available in many places to help, since it is possible to learn how to recognize signs of being upset earlier and to channel them into 'something else' or slow them down.
Some occupational therapists specialize in this. Your friend could ask their doctor or social worker, etc to help them find an anger management specialist or an occupational therapist who specializes in interoception struggles. (even though such overwhelm can be from other things besides anger).


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17 Jan 2021, 7:26 pm

HeroOfHyrule wrote:
I'm genuinely embarrassed to mention this, but I've given myself concussions once or twice during my worst meltdowns, and once hurt my hand really bad. I don't really have any good tips for how to vent other ways in the moment because when I had meltdowns like that I didn't think anything through during it, so I couldn't think of alternatives at all. I haven't had a meltdown like that in a long time though because I learned what exactly was causing them, and how to avoid having one and how to not let things build up like that in the first place.


I'm sorry that's happened to you, I'm sorry it's embarrassing too! I'm glad it has been a while since then, I definitely want to help him prevent them as much as possible. Thank you!



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17 Jan 2021, 7:28 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
I punched and slammed my head last weekend. It was the first time I've done that for a long time, and I wasn't proud of myself but I couldn't stop it.

alobaby, All you can do is hope that your friend is in a safe place when a meltdown occurs in your presence. Let them know that you understand what a meltdown is, and that you care about their safety. I think that's the best form of support that anyone who experiences meltdowns can receive. If someone told me how to have a meltdown, or tried to change my behaviours under pressure, I'd feel misunderstood. If they talked to me at a calm time and expressed emotional support / understanding overall, I'd feel much better -- even if it didn't change my instincts during a meltdown.

HeroOfHyrule, :( I'm sorry to hear that.


I hope you're okay! I want to do that, but if I were to go to wherever he is in that moment or even just text him, I know it would stress him out more, so I'm just not sure what to do. That's good advice though, thank you!



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17 Jan 2021, 7:29 pm

MrsPeel wrote:
Would it help to develop a deliberate non-harmful stim?
Like waving arms and jumping around or anything like that.
If it gets deliberately practiced whenever your friend is feeling upset, possibly it might become the go-to before more damaging behaviours?
Not sure though, just thought it might be worth a try.


I would love to help him do that, but I can't think of what. I think he needs to do something more intense than waving arms and jumping, etc, I just don't know what could help.



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17 Jan 2021, 7:29 pm

auntblabby wrote:
the only thing that kept me from melting down was physically exhausting myself through exercise.


I'm glad that helped you, thank you!



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17 Jan 2021, 7:30 pm

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For each day that you don't harm yourself, you could give yourself a little reward.


That sounds good, but I don't think it's really about that as much as helping him change to a different coping thing. He doesn't do it very often, but it's still worrying to me.



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17 Jan 2021, 7:31 pm

autisticelders wrote:
part of meltdowns and self injuring has to do with "interoception", the ability to recognize your emotions (anger, embarrassment. disappointment, frustration,etc) before your emotions overwhelm you. (generic you, meaning a person) Then new ways to deal with the emotions can be learned.
Therapy is available in many places to help, since it is possible to learn how to recognize signs of being upset earlier and to channel them into 'something else' or slow them down.
Some occupational therapists specialize in this. Your friend could ask their doctor or social worker, etc to help them find an anger management specialist or an occupational therapist who specializes in interoception struggles. (even though such overwhelm can be from other things besides anger).


I don't think he can get access to therapy for that right now, but that's good advice. Thank you!