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For those of you who have taken an official IQ test, what did you score?
I have not taken an official IQ test before 12%  12%  [ 6 ]
Under 75 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
75-80 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
85-89 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
90-95 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
96-99 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
100-105 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
106-109 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
110-115 12%  12%  [ 6 ]
116-119 4%  4%  [ 2 ]
120-125 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
126-129 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
130+ 33%  33%  [ 16 ]
140+ 14%  14%  [ 7 ]
150+ 6%  6%  [ 3 ]
Show me the results 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 49

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06 Apr 2022, 5:07 pm

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Where do you get the idea that they've taken Shakespeare and other "white poets" out of the English curriculum? They certainly haven't. The European literary tradition in classrooms is quite alive and well.


Of course they didn’t remove things entirely, but they cover less compared to what they used to.

I don’t know much about literature, I am in math and physics. But my mom is in literature field, I heard the above from her friends and she agrees.

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What I said applies more to the "verbal" part of formalized IQ tests than the "performance" part. The "verbal" part is relatively biased towards middle and upper-class Europeans and other "first worlders"----though not intentionally.


If your theory is correct, then blacks would be having lower verbal iq than whites yet the same performance IQ. Is it true though? The only thing I read is they have lower overall IQ (white have it at 103 and blacks at 85) They didn’t break it into the subsections though. Would be interesting to see it broken into subsections to see if your theory is right or not.



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06 Apr 2022, 5:09 pm

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IQ doesn’t mean all that much outside a “Western,” mainstream context.

People like Dinka tribespeople would probably score low even if they are geniuses. Hence, the “racial” thing.


I don’t see what can be “cultural” about just math, unless you say some cultures are poorly educated. IQ test is all about shapes. I haven’t seen people in European cultures toying around with those too much outside of IQ test.

This kind of thinking is partly to blame for decline in education where they take out Shakespeare and others since they are “white” poets. If they also view math as part of a “white” culture, then no wonder math education gets worse and worse.


A lot of the cultural bias isn't about the content of the test, but about the concept of "testing". We don't realize it because Western people learn it very young, but test-taking is actually a learned skill. If you've never been in the situation of someone asking you a bunch of questions they already know the answer to because they want to figure out how much you know, it can be pretty confusing. A lot of people like the Dinka are uncooperative during IQ tests, not because they're unwilling but because they don't understand what is expected of them. Ergo, they score poorly because they're not answering in a way that reflects their actual level of understanding of the world. They might be great at math, but not realize that you're asking them math questions because you want to know what they know about math.

This is also the same reason some autistic kids score way poorer than their actual ability, and ABA can result in big jumps in tested IQ. Autistic people are less good at picking up unspoken social conventions, including test-taking skills, while ABA is basically nonstop testing so it gives them lots of practice with test-taking.


If the issue is that they don’t know the rules of the gave so to speak, they would then score at zero. But they score at 85. That shows they know what is expected of them, they just aren’t good at it.



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06 Apr 2022, 5:12 pm

145.

I qualified for MENSA, but turned it down because it lacked diversity.
Or as I put it when I qualified at age 16, "This is a lousy place to meet girls."


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06 Apr 2022, 5:15 pm

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There's also "generational" bias.

If you show a present-day kid a picture of a typewriter or a rotary phone, the kid would probably not know what either one of these items are.

Nor would the kid be able to tell the examiner how either one of those items works.


But in IQ test they aren’t showing actual tools. They show words, numbers and shapes. So what you just wrote would only apply to verbal part. Which again leads to question: is it only the verbal section where blacks score lower or do they score lower on performance sections too?



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06 Apr 2022, 5:18 pm

old_comedywriter wrote:
145.

I qualified for MENSA, but turned it down because it lacked diversity.
Or as I put it when I qualified at age 16, "This is a lousy place to meet girls."


Oh wow that is a ridiculous reason to turn anything down. And what does diversity have to do with meeting girls? Are you saying you only want colored girls? Why?



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07 Apr 2022, 12:41 am

old_comedywriter wrote:
145.

I qualified for MENSA, but turned it down because it lacked diversity.
Or as I put it when I qualified at age 16, "This is a lousy place to meet girls."


:mrgreen:



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07 Apr 2022, 12:44 am

QFT wrote:
old_comedywriter wrote:
145.

I qualified for MENSA, but turned it down because it lacked diversity.
Or as I put it when I qualified at age 16, "This is a lousy place to meet girls."


Oh wow that is a ridiculous reason to turn anything down. And what does diversity have to do with meeting girls? Are you saying you only want colored girls? Why?


I think he is saying, gurls are dumb. 8O
JOKE!! ! :mrgreen:



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07 Apr 2022, 4:42 pm

I was only told that my grades should have been higher with my IQ. I never felt smart, because I assumed that people with social skills were only slacking when they said than numbers made their heads hurt.



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08 Apr 2022, 7:04 am

"Quite high" was the only thing given to my carer at the time.

It was done as everyone figured I was mentally impaired due to being poor at learning, so incoming special education stuff. It surprised everyone, obviously. They then kept me in regular classes and I was hit with some added help regarding expressive and receptive language, both verbal and written, along with them getting me to engage with others more. Language stuff improved quite a bit over the years. I guess there wasn't too much improvement with social stuff, as I still won't approach others socially in almost all instances. I probably appear closer to said IQ in written words than in person, but words are my weakness regardless; these are just the product of little Dill doing his best.



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08 Apr 2022, 10:24 am

When I was in elementary school, my IQ score was 134. I got something else in middle school (don’t remember what), then 127 in high school (most recent). According to my tester, my score decreased because I was too focused on getting things right when I did the timed tests, perhaps from being a perfectionist.

I’m not entirely sure if 127 is my true score or not.


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10 Apr 2022, 3:06 pm

Oh wow, someone actually voted 75-80. Can that person please speak up? I really want to hear from you! I used to assume on WrongPlanet everyone is high functioning. I guess not.

It would be interesting to hear from those very few people on WrongPlanet who are not high functioning. Definitely some variety and some unusual information for a change.



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10 Apr 2022, 3:14 pm

IQ tests should be called "how handicapped are you" tests.

Because they are actually a scale of handicappedness.

I've never done such a test and I really can't see how I would have ever benefitted from taking one.


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10 Apr 2022, 3:24 pm

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IQ tests should be called "how handicapped are you" tests.

Because they are actually a scale of handicappedness.


Are you saying that even people with high IQ are handicapped in a sense that they don't have even higher IQ. And thus most of us are handicapped. Because inability to memorize a phonebook like Rainman did, thats also a type of handicap?

If thats what you are saying, good point. I like to philosophize that way sometimes.



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10 Apr 2022, 4:08 pm

Tests created by a psychometrician.

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Tests normed by a psychometrician

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According to my father i was tested pre teen with a method being used in San Francisco at the time. First he said I scored around the 150 mark and then he said a more precise '147'.



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10 Apr 2022, 9:03 pm

QFT wrote:
Oh wow, someone actually voted 75-80. Can that person please speak up? I really want to hear from you! I used to assume on WrongPlanet everyone is high functioning. I guess not.

It would be interesting to hear from those very few people on WrongPlanet who are not high functioning. Definitely some variety and some unusual information for a change.


Wow, and now somebody voted "under 75". That is even more interesting! Please tell your story!



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11 Apr 2022, 4:21 am

QFT wrote:
I used to assume on WrongPlanet everyone is high functioning. I guess not.



I have a SZ-ASD combo, and don't regard myself as 'high functioning'