I'm not a genius but I've been accused of thinking I am one
I have had same-age peers, high school teachers, college professors, family members and strangers imply or explicitly state that I am not a genius. "You are smart, but not a genius" is a line I've heard countless times. Even my parents have accused me of thinking that I am more intelligent than everyone, which I think is preposterous, as I am not the type of guy who goes around pointing out how stupid people are or showing off his own intelligence (what intelligence, anyway?). All I do is be quiet and display the social skills of an autistic child, and on the basis of that I get accused of thinking that I am more intelligent than everyone.
What happens is that my poor social skills are inconsistent with my level of intelligence, and that makes some people wonder whether I am some sort of stereotypical genius or just someone pretending to be a genius. I also suspect that my social skills, which are often confused for arrogance and cockiness, as well as my demeanor, have made some people think that I think I am a genius. In reality, I know very well that I am neither gifted nor a genius.
Do any of you guys experience the same type of accusations? It's funny how people confuse lack of social skills with intellectual arrogance, isn't it?
Last edited by Mw99 on 15 Sep 2007, 11:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
Ayn Rand wrote a tribute to Marilyn Monroe after she died, where she addressed this same issue. Everyone around Marilyn Monroe wanted to benefit from her talent, but they didn't think twice to tell her that she wasn't so talented. And it was no wonder she killed herself (if it was murder, it was murder of the spirit.) It's called psychic vampirism. That's why it's better to never pay much heed to applause or criticism, because they're so often an agenda.
Mw99,
I was accused of thinking I knew everything. I was often told I didn't know everything when it was CLEAR that, for the task at hand, I knew a LOT, and my detractor knew NOTHING!
You may make a simple observation, or suggestion, as I did, and be met with some tripe simply because THEY feel insulted! And the younger you are, the more likely it is to happen. When you get to be about 20 or so, the SAME observations may be met with GRATITUDE! I have had people BEG me to offer suggestions, and I am PAID for it. Some are the SAME things I said even as a kid!
BESIDES, even GENIUSes don't know EVERYTHING! Only idiots believe they do. If you know what you know, and realize you don't know everything, just laugh and walk away. That's what I did/do.
Spaceplayer, I found the article you mentioned. It's a very good read:
The death of Marilyn Monroe shocked people with an impact different from their reaction to the death of any other movie star or public figure. All over the world, people felt a peculiar sense of personal involvement and of protest, like a universal cry of "Oh, no!"
They felt that her death had some special significance, almost like a warning which they could not decipher--and they felt a nameless apprehension, the sense that something terribly wrong was involved.
They were right to feel it.
Marilyn Monroe on the screen was an image of pure, innocent, childlike joy in living. She projected the sense of a person born and reared in some radiant utopia untouched by suffering, unable to conceive of ugliness or evil, facing life with the confidence, the benevolence, and the joyous self-flaunting of a child or a kitten who is happy to display its own attractiveness as the best gift it can offer the world, and who expects to be admired for it, not hurt.
In real life, Marilyn Monroe's probable suicide--or worse: a death that might have been an accident, suggesting that, to her, the difference did not matter--was a declaration that we live in a world which made it impossible for her kind of spirit, and for the things she represented, to survive.
If there ever was a victim of society, Marilyn Monroe was that victim--of a society that professes dedication to the relief of the suffering, but kills the joyous.
None of the objects of the humanitarians' tender solicitude, the juvenile delinquents, could have had so sordid and horrifying a childhood as did Marilyn Monroe.
To survive it and to preserve the kind of spirit she projected on the screen--the radiantly benevolent sense of life, which cannot be faked--was an almost inconceivable psychological achievement that required a heroism of the highest order. Whatever scars her past had left were insignificant by comparison.
She preserved her vision of life through a nightmare struggle, fighting her way to the top. What broke her was the discovery, at the top, of as sordid an evil as the one she had left behind--worse, perhaps, because incomprehensible. She had expected to reach the sunlight; she found, instead, a limitless swamp of malice.
It was a malice of a very special kind. If you want to see her groping struggle to understand it, read the magnificent article in the August 17, 1962, issue of Life magazine. It is not actually an article, it is a verbatim transcript of her own words--and the most tragically revealing document published in many years. It is a cry for help, which came too late to be answered.
"When you're famous, you kind of run into human nature in a raw kind of way," she said. "It stirs up envy, fame does. People you run into feel that, well, who is she--who does she think she is, Marilyn Monroe? They feel fame gives them some kind of privilege to walk up to you and say anything to you, you know, of any kind of nature--and it won't hurt your feelings--like it's happening to your clothing. . . . I don't understand why people aren't a little more generous with each other. I don't like to say this, but I'm afraid there is a lot of envy in this business."
"Envy" is the only name she could find for the monstrous thing she faced, but it was much worse than envy: it was the profound hatred of life, of success and of all human values, felt by a certain kind of mediocrity--the kind who feels pleasure on hearing about a stranger's misfortune. It was hatred of the good for being the good--hatred of ability, of beauty, of honesty, of earnestness, of achievement and, above all, of human joy.
Read the Life article to see how it worked and what it did to her:
An eager child, who was rebuked for her eagerness--"Sometimes the [foster] families used to worry because I used to laugh so loud and so gay; I guess they felt it was hysterical."
A spectacularly successful star, whose employers kept repeating: "Remember you're not a star," in a determined effort, apparently, not to let her discover her own importance.
A brilliantly talented actress, who was told by the alleged authorities, by Hollywood, by the press, that she could not act.
An actress, dedicated to her art with passionate earnestness--"When I was 5--I think that's when I started wanting to be an actress--I loved to play. I didn't like the world around me because it was kind of grim--but I loved to play house and it was like you could make your own boundaries"--who went through hell to make her own boundaries, to offer people the sunlit universe of her own vision--"It's almost having certain kinds of secrets for yourself that you'll let the whole world in on only for a moment, when you're acting"--but who was ridiculed for her desire to play serious parts.
A woman, the only one, who was able to project the glowingly innocent sexuality of a being from some planet uncorrupted by guilt--who found herself regarded and ballyhooed as a vulgar symbol of obscenity--and who still had the courage to declare: "We are all born sexual creatures, thank God, but it's a pity so many people despise and crush this natural gift."
A happy child who was offering her achievement to the world, with the pride of an authentic greatness and of a kitten depositing a hunting trophy at your feet--who found herself answered by concerted efforts to negate, to degrade, to ridicule, to insult, to destroy her achievement--who was unable to conceive that it was her best she was punished for, not her worst--who could only sense, in helpless terror, that she was facing some unspeakable kind of evil.
How long do you think a human being could stand it?
That hatred of values has always existed in some people, in any age or culture. But a hundred years ago, they would have been expected to hide it. Today, it is all around us; it is the style and fashion of our century.
Where would a sinking spirit find relief from it?
The evil of a cultural atmosphere is made by all those who share it. Anyone who has ever felt resentment against the good for being the good and has given voice to it, is the murderer of Marilyn Monroe.
Yes, I've heard that, and more people in the forum also
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One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
I have experienced the same thing many times, as recently as this month and going all the way back to 7th grade. It is one reason why I tend to keep to myself because trying to get other people to understand me is not at all worth the effort.
edited to add: OOOPPS! There I went being arrogant again.
I have experienced the same thing many times, as recently as this month and going all the way back to 7th grade. It is one reason why I tend to keep to myself because trying to get other people to understand me is not at all worth the effort.
edited to add: OOOPPS! There I went being arrogant again.
Keeping to yourself because most people don't understand you is not arrogance, it's a coping mechanism. Only an NT would seriously think that's arrogance.
Correct. Many NT's would take the statement:
"trying to get other people to understand me is not at all worth the effort"
and interpret that as:
"so you think that you're better than everyone else because it's not worth any effort on your part to communicate effectively with people"
If I were really a genius, I'd probably be able to FIND the baby blanket that I need to mail right now. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.........does anyone know where in my house it is hiding?
Never mind, I finally found it. It was in with the blankets that still need to be listed in the store instead of the containers of blankets that are in the store.
What happens is that my poor social skills are inconsistent with my level of intelligence, and that makes some people wonder whether I am some sort of stereotypical genius or just someone pretending to be a genius. I also suspect that my social skills, which are often confused for arrogance and cockiness, as well as my demeanor, have made some people think that I think I am a genius. In reality, I know very well that I am neither gifted nor a genius.
Do any of you guys experience the same type of accusations? It's funny how people confuse lack of social skills with intellectual arrogance, isn't it?
You porbably are a geniosu-by the way-how high is your I.Q. I have horrible social skills, and have a very low processing speed and functioning level, but I have an I.Q. of 187-so I am a genius-don't believe waht other people say-they've said the same to me-you can be a genius and do very poorly in all other aspects of you life and in interactions with others.
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