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ShadesOfMe
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18 Sep 2007, 3:35 am

I get that sometimes too. but they hae never seen me day to day, in my home life.



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18 Sep 2007, 5:16 am

lately my gf has gotten it in her head that i am acting an ass at home on purpose and that if i wanted to i could act better and need to work on it.



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18 Sep 2007, 6:23 am

thank you for clarifying that Criss! I think the goal for everyone on WP should be be yourself without any shame. I wish you well xx



18 Sep 2007, 12:03 pm

I get told "You seem normal to me" everytime I tell them I was diagniosed with mental disorders.



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18 Sep 2007, 5:08 pm

Almost anybody can emulate normal behavior. Even NTs have to emulate to some extent because everybody is different. But sometimes it draws somebodies mind away from their comfort zone. If you can pass off for NT without straining yourself, then good for you.



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18 Sep 2007, 6:52 pm

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Hi Fresco, sorry to alarm you with re my use of words. No my hands were not literally severed, it was just that my autistic ways were condemned as mad and deranged. Subsequently I refined the art of false self to such an extent that I suffered chronic depersonalization and trauma as I developed characters to protect myself from being seen. Just like Donna Williams as told in her biography NOBODY NOWHERE.

I am now retraining myself to be unashamedly myself.


I read that book, and finally understood why I was falsely diagnosed with Dissociative Disorder, years ago.


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18 Sep 2007, 7:55 pm

Funny how people will tell you that you're not aspie when AS has SO many varying traits.

If I say I have a headache, no-one tells me that I don't. If I say that, next summer, I expect to have hayfever (even though I am showing NO symptoms), no-one will tell me that I don't have hayfever. If I say I am aspie, suddenly everyone else knows better! "Ooh, my friend's son has that and he's a world chess champion and is mute - not like you at all!"

My partner worked with autistic teenagers across the entire spectrum. She said maybe 2-3 of them depicted the usual 'defined' symptoms, but most didn't. One low-functioning kid was the most emotional, huggy kid ("oh, autistic people don't relate, don't touch...") yet totally autistic.

I think it's downright insulting when someone tells you that you don't have something that you KNOW you have (I'm not meaning qualified people who would be able to offer alternative explanations if your symptoms really didn't add up, but all those who think they 'know' autism' just because they've known someone else on the spectrum - or worse still, they saw "Rain Man"). Sure! Both me and my partner are on the autistic spectrum: one of us sucks our thumb, stims a fair bit, hates people and adores staring at photos of pylons; the other is a world expert (obsessive) in theology and with effort can be moderately sociable on some occasions despite a crippling array of sensory disorders. The one aspie-related thing we DO have in common is the high probability that someone will say "you're not on the spectrum because..."

It makes me mad!! ! :evil: :x



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18 Sep 2007, 8:26 pm

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I think it's downright insulting when someone tells you that you don't have something that you KNOW you have


I definitely agree. What really gets me, is how can they possibly think that they really know me if I rarely open up to people? If I actually do open up to them and tell them something about myself, it's very insulting for them to say 'oh, I don't think you're like that Belle'. They should believe me because I know myself much better than they could ever hope to know me.

I really hate it when I'll talk to someone about some of my AS symptoms or my husband's ADHD symptoms, and they'll say 'well, everybody has a little bit of that'. Sure most people probably have some problems with focusing, social situations, etc., but not to the extent that someone with AS or ADHD has. I've realized that they're trying to make you feel better and tell you that you're not a freak, but it just feels like they're belittling our problems.



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18 Sep 2007, 8:33 pm

badwhippet wrote:
Funny how people will tell you that you're not aspie when AS has SO many varying traits.

If I say I have a headache, no-one tells me that I don't. If I say that, next summer, I expect to have hayfever (even though I am showing NO symptoms), no-one will tell me that I don't have hayfever.


I'm hypothyroid and have had Lyme disease, and I've had idiot doctors and disbelieving laypeople tell me I didn't have either one.

Those conditions have varying symptoms, too.



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18 Sep 2007, 8:35 pm

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I've realized that they're trying to make you feel better and tell you that you're not a freak


I think that has a lot to do with it. NT's don't want to be told the truth, they just want to be flattered; so they assume that's what we want as well.



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18 Sep 2007, 8:41 pm

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NT's don't want to be told the truth, they just want to be flattered; so they assume that's what we want as well.


Very good point. I'd always much rather be told the truth, than be left wondering if an NT really meant something they said. It's so hard to tell sometimes.



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18 Sep 2007, 11:03 pm

I can relate to a lot of what's being said here. Even my family can't grasp the concept of me having AS. They agree I'm odd, have trouble interacting socially, take things too literally, have a heightened sensitivity and strange interests but any a form of autism? No way! They just can't accept it. So not too many people know except them and my friend, who understands thank goodness. I've come right out and just told people like who I work with that my problem is I'm slightly autistic and they laugh and say I'm silly but then they look at me like maybe I'm not joking. Lol. I've learned to come across as normal as possible and seem to pull it off pretty good. Most people know I'm different though but they would be surprised to know why.



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18 Sep 2007, 11:35 pm

I find it funny that those who are quickest to laugh at us or get annoyed at us for being different, will be the ones who most insist that we don't have any disorder. It's like they want us to feel different, outcast, a nuisance, yes, but they don't want us to have a good reason for it that relieves us from the guilt.


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18 Sep 2007, 11:59 pm

Greentea wrote:
I find it funny that those who are quickest to laugh at us or get annoyed at us for being different, will be the ones who most insist that we don't have any disorder. It's like they want us to feel different, outcast, a nuisance, yes, but they don't want us to have a good reason for it that relieves us from the guilt.


They can ridicule a weaker person, but to laugh at a "cripple" would be wroooong.

So... to allow them to continue guilt-free, you can't be "handicapped"! You just CAN'T be!!


Grrrr..... :x



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19 Sep 2007, 1:35 pm

[quote="BlueMax]They can ridicule a weaker person, but to laugh at a "cripple" would be wroooong.

So... to allow them to continue guilt-free, you can't be "handicapped"! You just CAN'T be!!


Grrrr..... :x[/quote]

So true!!


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20 Sep 2007, 12:42 pm

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I went for an auditory integration therapy assesment today AIT. Anyway the woman was extremely surprised I was diagnosed with AS, she thought I was just extremely tense and anxious "keeping it all in and could lose it at any minute". She said I have worked with hundreds of people with AS and autism and you are nothing like that.
Anyway this is based purely on her observation/intuition of me not a detailed psychological assesment so I will try not to fret about it.
The facade I put on must be quite convincing, I will probably have to sleep tomorrow to get over the fatigue from interacting!!


Ever since I've planned to have a response to statements like these, I've not had anyone tell me that anymore. :? However, if someone ever said it again, I would say (provided I could think quickly enough 'cause it does take one off-guard): "Thank you for your opinion" with a stress on "opinion".


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