Marijuana and Autistic Spectrum Disorders

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20 Sep 2007, 5:54 am

As far as people seeming more pleasant when stoned goes, I can see where you're coming from but to me it just underlines some of the major misconceptions many non-smokers and anti-cannabis campaigners have about the substance. Firstly that it is just another recreational intoxicant to be viewed in the same light as alcohol; well maybe in certain contexts and to certain people it is, and I admit that there is a recreational aspect to smoking a joint whatever your original intention was.

With the people I know who use it for medicinal reasons, however (whether for pain relief, easing anxiety, nausea, the list goes on but the latter two are particularly pertinent in my case) I would use the analogy of an chronic migraine sufferer taking a couple of painkillers for a headache. If that painkiller is an opioid of any kind then there will also be a recreational aspect to that dose, but you would hardly complain about that person being more pleasant when under the influence, would you? That's to say nothing about the addictive properties of opioids or the havoc they can play with your digestive system, but that's another topic entirely.

I have to agree with earlier posts which state that most of the 'paranoia' associated with cannabis is to do with its legal status, although I must admit that initially I found the heightened perception that it gave me could be a little disconcerting. Set and setting certainly played a big part in getting used to it, and the result is that I can use cannabis nowadays and be much less impaired in my everyday activities. I eat on time. I go to sleep on time. I know that if the thoughts in my head start racing uncontrollably there's a way to control the flow and focus on the more pleasant side of my imagination. I'm sure everyone here will appreciate the contentment and sense of security in such a routine!

I suppose I'm quite biased having been a regular user for some seven or so years, but I must stress that I hated the image of the drug to begin with, and ignored the benefits of its use for quite a while. The primary reason I persisted is that my impulsive, hyperactive nature was driving me into an alcohol-and-insomnia-fuelled early grave, so if you're the kind of person who can manage their symptoms without any crutch then you're probably better off without it and I salute you for your courage and strength of character. If, however, you're a responsible person who's willing to do their research and respect the plant then I think for some people it offers a great alternative to prescribed medications, especially (and I spit out the word with contempt) antipsychotics.



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20 Sep 2007, 6:44 am

It's medicinal, it helps me get more grounded and connected. I use it with very sharp awareness of where I am, who I am and what I want to get out of it. I rule IT - it doesn't rule ME.

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07 Mar 2011, 6:00 am

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I'm lucky in that I don't have the propensity for addiction. I agree that overall, pot is safer for the general public. If you're going to pit them against each other. But the truth is, I enjoy drinks a lot more.
I can't stand the pot vs alcohol debates though. Hippies say pot is natural and mellow, while drink is Corporate made, sugary and makes people aggressive! :o
Some conservative drinkers counter that with "Pot is illegal, so pot smokers are criminals".
Those arguments are silly. Mind-altering is okay for fun. I get really high listening to Vivaldi, drinking beer or reading Wikipedia for hours at a time.
Too much of any those activities and I might lose my family! Really, it's about recognizing the line between healthy recreation and self-destruction.


It's not always about fun. Sometimes it's about introspection, spiritual awareness, community building, or emotional and physical healing.
It helps PTSD symptoms because you can relive traumatic experiences in your head while in a safe environment, they do this with ecstasy in some studies, but I prefer pot.
It actually helps social anxiety. Imagine sitting in a circle, passing around a beautiful handblown glass bong. Everyone is getting stoney and goofy... no one is going to notice your odd ways in this situation, and if they do, they don't care. Everyone is accepted because there is a common thread. No one is sitting in that circle because their life is perfect and they are content in every way. They need something. They need to sit in a room with a group of people and not be judged.

I've tried every antidepressant out there. Pot is A+ and has been the only consistent thing in my life for ten years. I don't think it's for everyone, but it helps with depression, especially if you have trouble eating, sleeping, or being around people. You just can't treat it like a party drug, it has a place and a purpose. It can be habit forming, but nobody ever drove off a bridge because they got off their marijuana.

I think alcohol is attacked because it can bring about the evil in people.



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07 Mar 2011, 11:42 am

It made me more able to handle social situations. I went from avoiding people to tolerating them when high. :D


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07 Mar 2011, 3:47 pm

Sativa marijuanna is an anti-depressant. It does not amplify sensor sensivity, in fact it does the opposite! Paranoia is only connected with the illegal usage or acceptance where you live. I've never felt paranoia after 15 years of smoking everyday, only I hide from my parent because I know they don't like it. I feel much better in social occasion, and it helps me focus, less distracted by my surroundings. Marijuanna have no long term effect... when it's out of your system, it doesn't induce any further problem.

Beware when you speak of cannabis as STREET cannabis. Medical and street cannabis have so much difference that you can't compare them together. It's like if someone as ADHD and uses speed VS ritalin. You never know what kind of nutrients or how the grower took care of the growing or the curing process. As for medical MJ, you can be sure of the good quality.



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07 Mar 2011, 4:20 pm

Coming from California, and being a prescribed Medical Cannabis patient, I'm wondering what everyone's thoughts are on the high CBD strains being given some of the limelight right now. In particular a strain called "Harlequin" being promoted and distributed through Harborside. The idea is that there is a low THC content, and a higher than normal CBD content. Anyone have any experience or care to offer their opinion?

As for me, I have used cannabis for years now to help me unwind in a literal sense, work is soooooo draining for me, and this "escape" allows me to relax, sleep, and let down the constraints on my "eccentric" aspie behaviors that I have in place throughout the day.

The use of this wonderful little plant has brought stability to my life, and enabled me to function in a world where I feel like an outsider.

MUCH MUCH better than letting a doc push all their psychotropic samples on me, I do not like processed medicines, especially for long term solutions.



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07 Mar 2011, 4:43 pm

I've made some search and a ratio of 1:1 of THC:CBD provides a good therapeutic effect. Sativex uses that ratio for ADHD medication. Also, Cannatonic strain seems to have good medical property. Do you grow your own weed?



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07 Mar 2011, 5:24 pm

Lets just say I've had a special interest in plants and growing things, as well as genetics and breeding for awhile and have put it to good use ;)

As for the sativex, its a neat product, and I like how they are going after the full constituted effect and not just another lab grade THC supplement.

For those not in the know, CBD is not psychoactive, and competes for receptors in your brain with THC. It produces more pain relief, and also has been shown to offset and "protect" against the detrimental psychoactive problems inherhent with THC.

Never have heard of Cannatonic as a strain, what part of the world is this available in? Or are you talking about medical products such as med-ibles and drinks?



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07 Mar 2011, 5:36 pm

Marijuana has been great for me. Mostly I use it to medicate my chronic migraines. Outside of that I only smoke at the end of the week and it really helps me unwind and self-examine.


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07 Mar 2011, 7:25 pm

used it everyday for a while, now its only occasionally.
i never really smoked a lot of pot though, mostly resin, its more common in denmark, has a higher cbd content usually.

voting for the legalization when election is coming up.

as JSMC wrote i think most of the paranoia stems from the society surrounding the user and not the drug itself.
some might of course feel paranoid from the drug but those effects seem to be a very subjective science.


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07 Mar 2011, 8:17 pm

Personally I think claiming that marijuana always causes paranoia or anxiety is the equivalent of saying alcohol always causes irrational anger or inappropriate behavior


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07 Mar 2011, 9:38 pm

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I'm 19 yrs old and I started smoking marijuana when I was 16. I had Aspergers of course, and Depression, and Social Phobia. I was not diagnosed and I didn't know this at the time. I used Marijuana to cope with a lot of things: stress, boredom, chronic anxiety and to deal with my strong obsessions with certain girls at school.

A few months after trying Marijuana for the first few times, I began to smoke on a regular basis, soon, every day.

Because of the way my brain is wired, it is very easy for me to get addicted to drugs, and because of my Aspergers (which I didn't know I had at the time), it was very easy for me to get fixated on things. This made quitting Marijuana a nearly impossible task.

In university, I moved on to smoking hashish (resin from the marijuana plant compressed into chunks) which was a lot more powerful than marijuana. My behaviour become increasingly odd, I was frequently paranoid, having minor halloucinations constantly, having delusions and odd beliefs and I become even more isolated. I developed a drug-induced psychosis. I also developed a sensitivity to light and sound which I still have to this day. I developed intolerances to MSG, chocolate, various cookies, and a mild lactose intolerance.

After I got caught by my parents, I got treatment for my addiction and that eventually led to my AS diagnosis.

Marijuana and Hashish caused me to develop a lot of autistic behaviours and made my negative symptoms of AS worse. I believe that marijuana can worsen and intensify autistic spectrum disorders if smoked frequently over long periods of time. I am also at risk of developing schizophrenia and temporal lobe epilepsy so my brain was effected more severly.

However, I do believe that marijuana contributes to and worsens the sensory overload aspects of AS and also intensifies social awkwardness, paranoia, odd rituals, childlike behavior, motor coordination problems.

These problems do go away if the drug use is discontinued (i am 5 months clean and feeling great) and proper medications and therapy are included in recovery.

I hear that drug use is not common among people with AS or Autism, but I thought I needed to share this because I have Aspergers and I used drugs. Perhaps this will help others either stay away from drugs or quit if they are currently using.


i have been smoking weed on a regular basis(nearly every other day or so) for 5 years and if anything other than the messed up perception its all been positive regarding my autism

it has never increased my depression it lessens mine


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07 Mar 2011, 10:23 pm

I smoke marijuana to help with depression, anxiety, and some PTSD symptoms....and I have also found I am able to focus more easily under the influence of marijuana and if I feel detatched it helps minimize that feeling which can also help with social interaction.

But it is true that not everyone reacts well to marijuana....it makes some people anxious and paranoid, and in some cases it can make symptoms of already existing mental problems worse for some people. So I would say since you had those sort of negative reactions its a drug you should avoid.

Just like any drug it works for some people and not for others.



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08 Mar 2011, 12:52 am

I was really obsessed with "cannabis culture" and smoked pot almost daily for a little over a year...It was not a good thing in my life...it made me quite anxious and paranoid ….....and made my executive functioning difficulties much worse!



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24 Mar 2011, 11:35 am

KimJ wrote:
it doesn't matter what you are, pot should never be introduced to depressed people. Pot helps people with muscular problems (injury, Cerebral Palsy) and I heard it's good for ADD/ADHD (as long as it's not paired with alcohol). But no one who is depressive should smoke pot, especially if they have social anxiety. It just heightens the isolation, magnifies imaginary problems which all contributes paranoia.
This is true with NTs too, in fact some of the worst pot addicts I know in RL are NTs.


for me marijuana relieves my depression and my social anxiety and im only paranoid when currently smoking outside if im outside and happen to already be high im perfectly fine and i have a lot more friends now that i smoke cuz it relieves my social phobia and anxiety


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24 Mar 2011, 3:37 pm

I hear about this addiction but the fact is that marijuana gives you a SHORT TERM boost, making u feel better while DEADING YOUR MEMORY AND MENTAL FUNCTION IN THE LONG TERM.

Personally, i started smoking marijuana on a daily basis in college when I was miserable, and binge drinking and developed bipolar disorder, which made things a WHOLE lot better. There is VERY little information on marijuana but it is known that it can change the pleasure center in the brain and increase anger, decrease motivation and sex drive and make you less able to concentrate or remember information. I took a bunch of easy tests with 50s and 60s when everyone else got A's because i could not remember information.

In addition, the people you get marijuana are ABSOLUTELY NOT YOUR FRIENDS and they will get you into trouble. If you continue one day you will come by their house to pick it up and find urself getting arrested in the process. THESE PEOPLE GET BUSTED VERY OFTEN and THEY WILL ALMOST IMMEDIATELY RAT OUT ALL OF THEIR CUSTOMERS TO SAVE JAIL TIME. I once called a stupid person who I knew sold and was talking to a police detective on the other line and had to tell them that I was trying to ask about homework and REMAIN SILENT when they described the drugs.

I just hope this helps, I would hate to see you meet the girl of your dreams when ur older and find that she DOES NOT WANT TO INVOLVE HERSELF WITH YOU BECAUSE OF YOUR HISTORY AND LIFESTYLE! and if ur smart marijuana will keep u from passing a drug test and getting a good job.