Any Aspies here in the U.S. Military?

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mikey1138
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25 Oct 2010, 10:57 am

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I am thinking about joining in the military....does it depend on the branch any? I would only do Air Force or Navy.


Do you currently have an ASD diagnosis? That might preclude you from being able to join... ask a recruiter or just try to keep it hush-hush when/if you do join. The Air Force can be pretty fun at times... and I recommend it over the other services but it depends on what you're looking for.

You can google the document in question: It's Department of Defense Instruction NUMBER 6130.03
April 28, 2010

Asperger's is mentioned on page 42.



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25 Oct 2010, 11:18 am

It appears you dudes in the US wanting to join are out of luck now.

If you're self-diagnosed and want to join, don't mention it, nor get a diagnosis.

If you're diagnosed..., don't lie, as lying to the government is a big no-no. They'll find out, no matter how "private" you think the diagnosis was.



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01 Feb 2013, 2:58 am

Hey guys, do any of you have updates?

My husband is at a crossroads with his condition spurring a bar or reenlistment or voluntary separation. Things are bad here and he is a SGT in the Army. He is self diagnoses recently after much discovery and wants help. Any ideas that would help him at this point to go to the right places to get help and how to deal with the VA after ACAP?



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01 Feb 2013, 12:28 pm

epitome81 wrote:
Hey guys, do any of you have updates?

My husband is at a crossroads with his condition spurring a bar or reenlistment or voluntary separation. Things are bad here and he is a SGT in the Army. He is self diagnoses recently after much discovery and wants help. Any ideas that would help him at this point to go to the right places to get help and how to deal with the VA after ACAP?


I am in the same boat here after being in 13 yrs. I plan to for now to stick it out with a self diagnosis because it seems like the military is now on the routine of discharging where they can find an excuse. As the draw down continues, they will be looking for these types of excuses to discharge. Maybe in the following years it will be better, but for now I personally will probably not seek an official diagnosis. The military has a way of finding things out, even if you think it's private info. That is why I will never use my real name or photos on this site.

Trust me it's tough, hope it works out for your husband if he is planning on retirement.



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28 Jun 2023, 6:55 pm

My generation just didn't have the Aspie diagnosis or even understanding in the 1970's.

Military service worked for me 90% of the time. Excelled at it! That 10%, though, was rough in the beginning until I learned to stfu.


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29 Jun 2023, 10:42 pm

I recently met an Autie who served in the Air Force. I've also had email correspondence with a rep (I'm a writer) for a woman who was a military combat medical assistant who's autistic. At the time they served, they had not been diagnosed.

Something I have to wonder about, though. Steady eye contact is enforced in the military. If a superior is speaking to you, you're required to glue your eyes to theirs. Though some autistic people can hold direct eye contact, many can't. How did you-all manage the eye contact?

Or perhaps an autistic with poor eye contact would never join the military, and any who WOULD probably already had pretty good eye contact?



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30 Jun 2023, 4:28 am

mikey1138 wrote:
Any Aspies here in the U.S. Military?
I am a six-year veteran of the U.S. Navy.
mikey1138 wrote:
Anyone else here, actively serving in the military with an AS diagnosis?
Sorry, I received my diagnosis over a decade after my honorable discharge.


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30 Jun 2023, 10:04 am

As my name implies, I grew up expecting I would join the Navy like my ancestors. Its unfortunate because while certain traits common to ND people would be beneficial to the military, they've decided the cons outweigh the pros and that they'd rather not deal with it. If you are in or are trying to go in, do not disclose your condition. They can and will give you the boot just for having the dx. If you really have to, you can say a doctor thought you fit the criteria years ago but you want a second opinion. Exceptions can be given if they do give you the label, but I wouldn't gamble on getting one. Most people I've known who have had some physical or mental issue that falls foul of the military's written requirements have a very hard time getting in.



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30 Jun 2023, 1:56 pm

CopingNavyBrat wrote:
As my name implies, I grew up expecting I would join the Navy like my ancestors. Its unfortunate because while certain traits common to ND people would be beneficial to the military, they've decided the cons outweigh the pros and that they'd rather not deal with it. If you are in or are trying to go in, do not disclose your condition. They can and will give you the boot just for having the dx. If you really have to, you can say a doctor thought you fit the criteria years ago but you want a second opinion. Exceptions can be given if they do give you the label, but I wouldn't gamble on getting one. Most people I've known who have had some physical or mental issue that falls foul of the military's written requirements have a very hard time getting in.


Seems to me that the assets of being autistic would outweigh any anticipated issues in that autistics would, overall, be less likely to get emotional and especially over-emotional during assignments and other ventures, wherease NTs would get all emotional. The autistic mind would be more prone to tactical and strategic thinking, while the NT would get emotional and too full of feelings. The military is based on RIGID and INFLEXIBLE activities, which an autistic would do very well in. I have no military experience, but am I not correct?



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30 Jun 2023, 2:50 pm

I was on active duty in the U.S. Air Force 1976–1980, during the Carter administration, long before 1994 when the DSM added a diagnosis that would've applied to me: Asperger's Syndrome. But, I did not suspect I was Autistic until 2019—the year I got an Adult Autism Assessment which gave me the diagnosis: Autism Spectrum Disorder, Level 1 (Mild), with a note that I also satisfied the criteria previously associated with Asperger's Syndrome.

I was in IT in the Air Force and was very good at my job (they were annoyed when I decided to leave active duty!). With hindsight, I think being an Aspie may have actually helped me in the Air Force.

I was barely athletic enough to be in the Air Force, though. In 1982 I got the first hazy, possible medical explanation for this...I seemed to have some vague, ill-defined cardiac issues. It was not until 2012 that it was determined that I had a congenital heart valve problem that could have impaired extreme exertion.


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01 Jul 2023, 1:26 pm

I knew a guy who was in the Marine Corps for 20+ years then taught JROTC. He was almost certainly undiagnosed Asperger's.