Loss of ability to speak when under stress.

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29 Sep 2007, 7:24 pm

Aseld wrote:
Yes. I hate it so much. I go through a few stages when stressed, in ascending order of stress level:

Talking normally
Retreating to formality, using the rules of language to my advantage
Beginning to become incoherent, not being able to find the words I want
Beginning to feel like retreating, if for whatever reason I can't or it's important that I don't, I become even more incoherent and start swearing, mainly at myself for not being able to find the words I want
Inability to make myself understood - I really don't want to find out what happens if I'm in this state and can't go to my room. Text communication only.



Anyone also keep "escape plans"? I try and keep my social stress levels down by knowing my exits. ie. sitting in the back corner closes to a door in a classroom or making sure I have private transportation such as a car or a bike.

Also, has anyone gotten to the point where they have lost their memory? It has only happened once or twice but I am terrified it will happen again: A social situation hits a level of stress where I completely blank out. Sometimes it switches into auto-pilot where I don't have control over what I am doing but my body is reacting to get me out of the situation and sometimes my mind and body shut down completely and I feel like a stunned game-character like in existenz.


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03 Oct 2007, 2:53 am

Yes. quite a bit.



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03 Oct 2007, 6:20 am

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Does anyone else experience this? Not necessarily a complete inability to talk, but a noticeable impairment. As an example, I've had a **** of a morning and I was just speaking to my mother, trying to tell her about the mark I received for an assignment, and it came out like this:

"...
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I... um... er... I, I, um... was... was- was... what am I saying... oh yes, I was on... um... learning@griffith and...uh.............................................. um... making sure that the lecturers hadn't posted any surprise assignments... and I... I went to... .... .... Stephen Cronin's course... um... um.... what does he take me for again? ... Oh yes, Contemporary Creative Writing, and... there was a button that said "Results" and.... I got 9 out of 10... for my...uhhh... first assignment that I handed in."

Does anyone else experience this stress-caused dysfluency? Is it a common Aspie thing?


I once forgot the word for "door" and when trying to explain what a door is/looks like to my mom i couldn´t find the words for that either ("it´s that thing...ehm...that flat thing...you know? And it´s brown! Come on, you know!! That thing with...with the thing!? Come ooon!") and i just got upset. My mom didn´t understand me at all... :roll:

The question is: why does this happen?



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03 Oct 2007, 7:17 am

hmmm... is it a dumb thing to suggest its an ASD thing??? Sounds like it, well need a few NT's input, but ive never met anyone who screwes up their speech when stressed or angry or have alot going on like I do. We all have sinilar issues, sucks when you are having an argument with someone you know you are right but when ya talk you sound so stupid their is no way you can even convey your message let alone try and win the argument. When I am highly stressed I say very few words, or will exit entirly and come back in a few mins when I have time to think.

Probably happens because of some kind of overload. Mind is racing to quickly and your language suffers. Any medical reports on this?? I know mine can be quite severe if the stress if very high and I have a decent command of language.


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03 Oct 2007, 7:39 am

I know two different variants of speaking-loss. The first one is that I stutter when I'm under pressure. I tend to forget what I want to say and why I say then is unstructured and chaotic.

The other thing is a total loss of speech for no apparent reason. I find that I want to say something, but my vocal words don't work and I can't even think of the word itself. I can't force myself to speak correctly then, I can just try to get out some words that seem right (although they not always are) and hope for the best.

Part of that is also forgetting the names of certain things. I know them - who doesn't know the word telephone? - but I can't say it.

I don't think in language and that is why this happens to me I think.



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03 Oct 2007, 8:26 am

My communication goes right out the window when I'm overloaded. When there's too much going on around me I get wide-eyed and become almost mute - shaking my head yes/no or pointing to things. If I have to talk it comes out similarly to what other posters have described. I find the same thing happens when I get tired too - first thing in the morning I talk the most and as the day goes on I get quieter, and by the end of the day I'm getting those same speech problems even if I'm not overloaded.



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03 Oct 2007, 8:59 am

Go_lightly wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
Does anyone else experience this? Not necessarily a complete inability to talk, but a noticeable impairment. As an example, I've had a **** of a morning and I was just speaking to my mother, trying to tell her about the mark I received for an assignment, and it came out like this:

"...
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I... um... er... I, I, um... was... was- was... what am I saying... oh yes, I was on... um... learning@griffith and...uh.............................................. um... making sure that the lecturers hadn't posted any surprise assignments... and I... I went to... .... .... Stephen Cronin's course... um... um.... what does he take me for again? ... Oh yes, Contemporary Creative Writing, and... there was a button that said "Results" and.... I got 9 out of 10... for my...uhhh... first assignment that I handed in."

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I once forgot the word for "door" and when trying to explain what a door is/looks like to my mom i couldn´t find the words for that either ("it´s that thing...ehm...that flat thing...you know? And it´s brown! Come on, you know!! That thing with...with the thing!? Come ooon!") and i just got upset. My mom didn´t understand me at all... Rolling Eyes


This happens all the time - the number one word used in our house is "thing" and "thingy". Anyone who lives with me eventually starts speaking in pseudo-sentences and starts gesturing wildly; for my family it's become a second language - other people never know whats going on, but we get along fine :D.


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03 Oct 2007, 10:00 am

One of three things always happens when I have a stress overload: 1.) I start to stutter and sound like a broken record, 2.) It takes me an inordinately long time to get anything out or 3.) I won't say anything at all (i.e. total shutdown).

Like a good majority of people on WP, I'm better communicating through the written word, rather than through oral communication, which is a disaster waiting to happen.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:01 am

One of three things always happens when I have a stress overload: 1.) I start to stutter and sound like a broken record, 2.) It takes me an inordinately long time to get anything out or 3.) I won't say anything at all (i.e. total shutdown).

Like a good majority of people on WP, I'm better communicating through the written word, rather than through oral communication, which is a disaster waiting to happen.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:15 am

I think I'm NT - I'm here 'cause my little brother is very, VERY aspie, so if anyone can point me to a thread(s) that relate to siblinghood rather than parenting, that would be all kinds of helpful - but I stutter when under stress. It's worse if I'm in front of people, haven't had enough sleep, haven't had good nutrition, have low blood sugar - all reasonably common stressors, as far as I know.

Someone mentioned the lack of an NT perspective; I think I count.



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03 Oct 2007, 10:21 am

alegziz wrote:
I think I'm NT - I'm here 'cause my little brother is very, VERY aspie, so if anyone can point me to a thread(s) that relate to siblinghood rather than parenting, that would be all kinds of helpful - but I stutter when under stress. It's worse if I'm in front of people, haven't had enough sleep, haven't had good nutrition, have low blood sugar - all reasonably common stressors, as far as I know.

Someone mentioned the lack of an NT perspective; I think I count.


Nutrition is definitely a factor, when I eat healthy my AS tenancies manifest themselves differently. This is probably an area that plays a common cross between AS and NT worlds.


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03 Oct 2007, 11:03 am

Anxiety is likely a large part of it, as NTs with social phobia (or even without) often start to use "um" a lot when they are stressed, their mind can go blank, etc.



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03 Oct 2007, 1:09 pm

Yes I do, sometimes I just become totally non-verbal, and rely on sign language to communicate...


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03 Oct 2007, 2:33 pm

I often-times stutter myself. People get annoyed by it. Occasionally they'll tell me "Spit it out". They didn't understand. Sometimes I just don't have the ability to speak properly. It'll happen when I'm under severe pressure or intense anger. Occasionally I'll stutter when I'm talking to a woman I've met for the first time, and that isn't attractive or convenient.



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03 Oct 2007, 2:37 pm

Jcaps wrote:
I often-times stutter myself. People get annoyed by it. Occasionally they'll tell me "Spit it out". They didn't understand. Sometimes I just don't have the ability to speak properly. It'll happen when I'm under severe pressure or intense anger. Occasionally I'll stutter when I'm talking to a woman I've met for the first time, and that isn't attractive or convenient.


same. I stutter at times and it's :oops: Luckily, it doesn't happen all the time.



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03 Oct 2007, 6:00 pm

The more stressed I am, the worse my speech, memory and ability to socialize at all.