Page 2 of 2 [ 24 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2

Belle77
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Feb 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,078

05 Oct 2007, 12:22 pm

It was a cool story idea, it just made me feel really stupid that I didn't pick up on the true meaning of it. :(



Graelwyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Age: 49
Gender: Female
Posts: 8,601
Location: Hants, Uk

05 Oct 2007, 3:40 pm

Belle77 wrote:
It was a cool story idea, it just made me feel really stupid that I didn't pick up on the true meaning of it. :(


Ditto, but hey, it was the unexpected and it was put in a place where it is usually serious discussion. I guess that like myself, you trusted the poster to be serious and honest in the post.



2ukenkerl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jul 2007
Age: 63
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,236

05 Oct 2007, 6:57 pm

Zep1 wrote:
Belle77 wrote:
Thanks for pointing that out. That was a mean thing to post on an Aspie forum since we tend to be gullible. :evil:


Sorry, didn't mean to be mean....I was unable to fall asleep the other night and as I was laying there, I was imagining a very different world. One were WE were the masters and the majority. and i wondered what it would be like for a person who was one of them in our world! That's where this came from. OK, I didn't call it NeuroTypcial Syndrome as that wouldn't have made sense. But if you didn't pick up on...walking at 14 months, speaking in short sentacnes at 2, iq of l only 110, modern humans interbreeding with homo sapiens.....stalking and strong obsession should have given it away. How about steelin a ball from the dog? In our world there are not sports that involve a ball!


NO, you shouldn't have called it NT, but maybe ES(Everets syndrome), or JP(Johnstons psycopathy). BOTH are names I just made up. I thought you MIGHT be doing a parody. NICE parody, but you should have made it more obvious.

HEY, some people really ARE dumb enough to believe things like what you said, so how were people here to know that YOU didn't believe it?



Belle77
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 9 Feb 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,078

05 Oct 2007, 8:08 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
Ditto, but hey, it was the unexpected and it was put in a place where it is usually serious discussion. I guess that like myself, you trusted the poster to be serious and honest in the post.


That's a good point that it's in the General Autism Discussion, where you expect things to be serious.



badwhippet
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

User avatar

Joined: 30 May 2006
Gender: Female
Posts: 39
Location: UK

08 Oct 2007, 5:37 pm

Gah! It was a good post - made me laugh.

I get the whole idea of calling Brian's condition AS as a reversal of reality (kids are taken to doctors as neurotypicals with 'odd' traits).

It works. I like it.

And I like Zep1! :wink: :D



Zep1
Toucan
Toucan

User avatar

Joined: 28 Nov 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 262

09 Oct 2007, 10:31 am

badwhippet wrote:
And I like Zep1! :wink: :D


And i like you too you bad little whippet! I wish more would have read further before posting responses. How many dad's encourge there boys to find a nice girl to stalk, to spend more time in there room?



julien_littleone
Butterfly
Butterfly

User avatar

Joined: 6 Oct 2007
Gender: Female
Posts: 9

11 Oct 2007, 9:30 pm

I found this disturbing. I think it's disturbing whether it happens to anyone, being talked about and treated like this.
The sort of tone is ghastly cheerful, like they could be talking about having the kid's head cut off and still be happy about it.
It reminds me of H.G. Wells's The Country of the Blind which freaked me out for life. I'm not a fan of reverse perspectives like this.
The writing/idea is good though.



psychotic
Sea Gull
Sea Gull

User avatar

Joined: 30 Jun 2007
Gender: Male
Posts: 212
Location: Floating through space

12 Oct 2007, 2:37 am

I ADDed through some of the giveaway things (skipped over 2nd and 3rd paragraph, missed the middle of the 4th paragraph, only read the first sentences of the 5th and 6th paragraph, etc), but the story does lack in a bit of perspective which is the only fault I found with it being a parody. If all babies were autistic, you wouldn't look at his face as being blank. You wouldn't look for an ability to not do something (recognize faces) as being a good thing. You simply wouldnt notice him being autistic. That's what can throw people off with the story. If you do ever plan on editing it, take some of that out because that is simply not how normal people are looked at in any society.

It's mainly my fault for not reading carefulyl at all and I'm just trying to blame it on you though for not seeing what it was trying to do. :lol: I dont know how everyone reads, but I read so poorly that I thought that he WAS speaking in the monotone voice and that he had bad coordination. then I started filling in stuff like the kids calling him names being sarcasm, except that little kids using extrovert didnt quite make sense. didnt bother me much though

why do you care about anything i just said? DONT KNOW this was such a stupid rambling on

anyway is this how someone witih AS would miss the point of the story or is it in a different way?





Zep1 wrote:
After trying for three years, we were quite pleased when we got the news that we were pregnant. We didn’t really have a preference as to a boy or girl, we just hoped for a healthy normal baby. When Brian was born, we thought that our dreams had come true. A beautiful 8lb, 12oz boy with a head full of blond hair and deep blue eyes, such a beautiful blank face. He was a nice quite baby, only crying when something was needed. When his eyes, opened, he didn’t make eye contact or seem to recognize faces.

At about nine months we started to suspect that all was not well. He was not walking and would stare at our faces while changing and feeding him. When he did start to walk, at 14 months, he quickly developed what can best be described as a fluid gait, his shoulders tucked uncomfortably back and his head held high and erect. We constantly worried that he would trip, no looking at his feet as he walked. At age two, he was only speaking in short sentences and showed no interest in how things worked or were constructed. When we would take him on occasion to day care, he would continually bother the other children and the teachers, wanting to play with them. Likewise, he didn’t seem to be content to stay in his room and play, he always wanted to be in my bedroom or his mother’s bedroom.

Reluctant to admit that there was a problem, it wasn’t until we took him for his 24 month checkup that our pediatrician confirmed our worst fears and recommended that Brian be tested for autism. The testing confirmed our fears; Brian received a dx of Aspergers Syndrome. As is common with this syndrome, Brian also had at low IQ. The psychologist told us that with an IQ of only 110, Brian would never be able to keep up with the other kids in normal classes but with help could be trained to lead a happy and productive life.

So, at age 5, he started special ed. He would cry like a baby when the short yellow bus would pull up and he would have to leave. In time he adapted and started to improve upon his social skills. Once it was explained to him that his constant attempts at eye contact were upsetting people and making them uncomfortable, he stopped. I hate to admit it but this habit of his even creeped me out at times. He learned to speak in a monotone and to minimize the facial twitching. Sometimes he would forget but for the most part he did a good job.

The other children could be so cruel: "friendly", "socializer", "funny face", "extrovert", oh the names they would call him. Of course the stereotypes don't help either "you have to watch out for those friendly extroverted types, they are always up to no good".

Of course this didn’t really change him. There is no cure for Aspergers Syndrome right now. Scientist are working on it though. It appears to be some sort of genetic defect. One interesting theory is that modern humans and Homo sapiens interbreed at some point during the time that both inhabited parts of Europe. It does kind of make sense. The Homo sapiens were known to have smaller brains, gather together to live and hunt in groups and to use non-verbal communication. Who knows, maybe some of Brains’ twitches are telling us something that we just aren’t equipped to understand.

As Brian grew, he came to find a number of other kindred spirits at his school. I didn’t like it but they would band together and often times meet after school at our house. Sometimes, in nice weather, they would go out back, steal a ball from the dog, and throw it to each other. It was rather amazing to see how quickly they could move as well as the agility and coordination exhibited. Who knows, maybe what God took away from them he gave back in another form. If only there were some practical applications for their physical abilities. In the colder months, they would join together in our basement. You should have heard the jibber gabber! Like the chimps at the zoo! They don’t seem to be happy unless they are talking! One of the boys had a normal older brother who hacked his Xbox for him so that more than one could play at a time! Seems confusing to me but they all seemed to love it and would play for hours on end in to the wee hours of the morning. It’s the only thing that I’ve ever seen any of them show and interest in or focus on in a normal way.

Oddly, as a teen, he seemed to be very shy around girls even afraid of them. We were surprised at such a normal reaction given his problems. But, even though I tried to do my duty as a dad and teach him about the birds and the bees, I was never able to get him to stalk any of the ones that he liked.

Today, Brian is 18 and working as an auto mechanic after completing trade school. With the help of sedatives, he is able to control himself to the point where most of his customers don’t even know about his problem! He doesn’t have a girlfriend or even a strong obsession so we’ve accepted the fact that we probably won’t have any grand kids by Brian to like.

Well anyway, I know that a lot of you have relatives with Aspergers or have it yourselves. I just want you to know that it’s not the end of the world. Brian is different and it’s ok to be different. The world needs mechanics just as much as engineers, programmers, physicist and scientists. Everyone is not going to be able to complete their dissertation or pass their comprehensive exam. We’ve accepted him for who he is and like him just as much as we like the other normal children whom we have produced since Brains birth.