ONLY FOR ASPIES: What's your IQ?
"Most online IQ tests seem to be made real easy to provide some kind of ego-trip to an average person. Just like those "how bright is aura" tests from tickles.com.
The best test I found yet is this one from Mensa : http://www.mensa.org/workout2.php "
mm... i did it and got 23 out of 30
not great but hmm... what did others get?
yea ha perhaps i shuda spent more time thinkn lol mmm... did at late at night that my excuse lol
The best test I found yet is this one from Mensa : http://www.mensa.org/workout2.php "
mm... i did it and got 23 out of 30
not great but hmm... what did others get?
yea ha perhaps i shuda spent more time thinkn lol mmm... did at late at night that my excuse lol
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what's so good about the Mensa IQ test? At the end they tell you you have a good/very good/excellent chance or whatever to make it into Mensa. They want you to pay to take the paper and pencil test. And if you can't grasp that simple concept, maybe you are the type of person they want money from.
We seem to have a strong curve centered on 135, with the same spread as all people around 100.
Over time I have also noticed a smaller blip at 170, and an even smaller one at over 200.
High inteligence is not a consistant curve up from 100, but a wave with three observable smaller peaks.
There is a very observable gap at 115-120, and again at 145-155. Do these cycles not work at all?
The next class change down from 100 is at 65-70.
So here we have peaks at 35 point intervals, and gaps between.
Are there large numbers of people with IQs of 135 who do not get called AS?
I seem to recall it is 1% of the population in both groups.
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Not really, other than a few high ones here or there, the spread is the same. In fact, there really isn't many people with AS who do have it over 125 if you look at the actual data. People with AS cover a full spectrum of IQ's
In fact, 70% of people with autism (any kind, not just AS) have an IQ below 70.
Here are some myths about it right here: http://www.aspergers.org/myths_about_as ... ndrome.htm
Really? You sure it did not result from an online test? My scores typically range from 140-190 on those! Otherwise, people with that kind of IQ occur in 1 in every 3x10^7 to 4x10^7 people....
There is a very observable gap at 115-120, and again at 145-155. Do these cycles not work at all?
The next class change down from 100 is at 65-70.
So here we have peaks at 35 point intervals, and gaps between.
No not really. Again, read my previous statements. The data says that people with AS usually have average IQ's, and most don't have it any higher than 120, just like anybody else.
Short answer, yes. And not that they don't get called AS, but rather a lot of those people don't have AS. In fact, the percentage of the population who will have an IQ that high is <1%.
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By the way, I tested at 130. Not that it really matters, the IQ test is not really sound since it is culturally based, easy to manipulate, is easily skewed by other factors, and is less valid at older ages.
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Radiantaspie, I am speaking about this poll, look at the results, 42% at 135, 16% and 18% on each side.
Are you saying all these people lied?
You tell me everything I say is wrong and then provide a link?
You do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
My point, less than !% have 135 IQs, less than 1% called aspie.
The group here says 135 is the mid point of the curve.
So you are right and everyone else is lying?
Spit out some more math, and links, quote Latin, but that will not make up for lines like,
In fact, 70% of people with autism (of any kind) have an IQ below 70.
What does that have to do with a poll about people with AS, posting their tested IQs?
Report back to CAN headquarters. Your propaganda is not welcome.
Not really, other than a few high ones here or there, the spread is the same. In fact, there really isn't many people with AS who do have it over 125 if you look at the actual data. People with AS cover a full spectrum of IQ's
In fact, 70% of people with autism (any kind, not just AS) have an IQ below 70.
Here are some myths about it right here: http://www.aspergers.org/myths_about_as ... ndrome.htm
Really? You sure it did not result from an online test? My scores typically range from 140-190 on those! Otherwise, people with that kind of IQ occur in 1 in every 3x10^7 to 4x10^7 people....
There is a very observable gap at 115-120, and again at 145-155. Do these cycles not work at all?
The next class change down from 100 is at 65-70.
So here we have peaks at 35 point intervals, and gaps between.
No not really. Again, read my previous statements. The data says that people with AS usually have average IQ's, and most don't have it any higher than 120, just like anybody else.
Short answer, yes. And not that they don't get called AS, but rather a lot of those people don't have AS. In fact, the percentage of the population who will have an IQ that high is <1%.
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By the way, I tested at 130. Not that it really matters, the IQ test is not really sound since it is culturally based, easy to manipulate, is easily skewed by other factors, and is less valid at older ages.
I was one of the above 170's...and it was done by a professional (and took forever and was rather a bore!). The online ones score me lower than that because they are not evenly distributed questions. They cannot properly measure all the things an actual IQ test measures.
Mine was 182.
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Radientaspie: thanks for the link...I posted it on my Myspace and emailed it to family...maybe they'll stop instructing me to punish my auti/aspi children for things they cannot help and see that when they think me "rude" I'm not trying to be...I honestly didn't see anything wrong in what I did/said.
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Are you saying all these people lied?
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The group here says 135 is the mid point of the curve.
So you are right and everyone else is lying?
This is online for christ's sake! Not everyone is going to answer the poll, and not everyone who did may be likely to tell the truth about their scores, or took an actual psychological test. The poll is no better than using anecdotes.
More flawed logic. Just because there are less than 1% who are aspie does not mean that they all fit into the people who have IQ's of 135 or larger. Its even worse then that, there is absolutely no correlation between high IQ's and aspergers syndrome.
You do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
Spit out some more math, and links, quote Latin, but that will not make up for lines like,
In fact, 70% of people with autism (of any kind) have an IQ below 70.
What does that have to do with a poll about people with AS, posting their tested IQs?
And all that is ad hominem. I posted the link because one of the many myths (read:MYTHS) about aspergers syndrome is that they all have above average IQ's, which just isn't the case. So far, the facts remain otherwise, whether you like them or not.
As for my statement regarding the average IQ of the typical autistic, it doesn't matter if you are offended or if you like it. Facts are facts, and they have been drawn from over several different peer-reviewed studies. Do you, Inventor, have any data that says otherwise? I am attacking the ridiculous claims and shaky conclusions, not the poll.
f**k off! As I said in another nameless thread to someone else on this subject, keep your paranoid rantings to yourself. You have yet to prove that the psychological community is wrong. So far, you have shown that your logic is the same as those Neo-Nazis, Medical Quacks, and those who support CAN, MMR conspiracies, and a whole host of groups that I care not to mention.
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Mine was 182.
Really! That's really good. If your IQ is really that high then that means that you are truly one of a kind
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Your welcome! I'm glad that there is at least one person who appreciates my contributions. I find that it is my duty to clear up any misconceptions of any kind among the general public, as I have seen they can be quite dangerous and detrimental...
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Why not? There are many autistic people who are highly intelligent but may not do well on many traditional IQ tests. Sue Rubin was believed to have an IQ of 30 or something of the sort, until she was given access to facilitated communication and all of a sudden it skyrocketed to 130. Donna Williams had an "official" IQ of about 70 for years, even though she has no cognitive deficiency. And so forth. IQ tests can be greatly inadequate for measuring one's *real* abilities, especially in the case of autistic people, who react to things differently and may not be able to process the tasks in the way they are supposed to. So I don't see why there couldn't be some people who are as intelligent as anyone, but who have an inadequately low score on formal IQ tests due to perceptual/reaction/processing difficulties.
I was never formally diagnosed with ASD, nor did I ever pass an official IQ test, but, judging from how I did the tasks in Aysenck's book and others like it, I probably wouldn't do *too* well on it. As a rule, I perform visual tasks quickly and easily, the verbal ones are more or less fine though take a much longer time, but I am hopeless at any that involve calculations. And, given my delayed reaction, I would be likely to simply fail to complete the test on time.
Are you saying all these people lied?
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The group here says 135 is the mid point of the curve.
So you are right and everyone else is lying?
This is online for christ's sake! Not everyone is going to answer the poll, and not everyone who did may be likely to tell the truth about their scores, or took an actual psychological test. The poll is no better than using anecdotes.
Agreed. There is no evidence whatsoever that the group of people who responded to this poll (even if they all reported actual, valid, IQ scores), is in any way representative of the Aspie population in general. There's no way you can draw valid conclusions about the Aspie population based on this poll.
You do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
Spit out some more math, and links,
Not math, statistics. I hate to say it, but if you knew anything about statistics you wouldn't have posted what you did. RadiantAspie is absolutely right about what he/she said, and instead of responding with logic and reason, you spouted bizarre accusations.
Here's an analogy of what you are doing here:
Take 20 containers, each filled with 500 marbles. Each container is filled with a different color of marble. So there are ten thousand marbles, made up of 20 different colors. Empty the containers into a vat. Don't mix them up or anything. Then close your eyes, stick your hand in, and pick up twenty marbles. Then draw a conclusion about the make-up of the vat of marbles based on those twenty marbles. Say you picked up 9 blue marbles, 4 red marbles, 5 yellow marbles, and 2 white marbles. Based on your sample, you might assume that most of the marbles in the vat are blue, followed by yellow and red, and then white. You would be completely wrong, because of 2 major reasons (1) your sample size is very, very small and (2) due to #1 and a number of other factors, your marble sample is not representative of the marble population. There are lots of other smaller problems with this actual case, but this simple example can illustrate the major principles.
I'd know the exact make up of the vat. There would be 491 blue, 496 red, 495 yellow, 498 white and 500 of each other color, and having taken 20 containers and counted out 500 marbles into each I'd have no problem remembering all the colors. In fact the whole experience would probably affect me for years. I do agree that you need a significant sample though for population statistics.
I've taken several IQ tests, some online, some written, all timed (the ones done in school were confidential, only the school knew the results) I've done some mensa tests too. Scores varied between 155 and 162. The only tests I've taken on record were for specific skills, and were done by an employment psychologist while I was seeking work through the job center. I got 99% (there isn't a higher possible grade) on the spatial skills one, which compares you to university entrants for art and design courses. On that one I completed it and had time to recheck all my answers with 10s to spare. On the logic and reasoning test I scored 83%, but the result was off, as I didn't use the provided paper for any working, I did it all in my head (damned arrogance at work).
I try not to be arrogant about my IQ, but it seems that just being intelligent around NTs is seen as being arrogant. Intelligence is one skill that isn't appreciated by society and should be hidden away (I'm guessing this is why a lot of other aspies are depressed too, not being able to use your gifts to help other people). Partly why the world is going round the U-bend.
BTW my favourite film is Idiocracy by Mike Judge
The best test I found yet is this one from Mensa : http://www.mensa.org/workout2.php "
mm... i did it and got 23 out of 30
not great but hmm... what did others get?
yea ha perhaps i shuda spent more time thinkn lol mmm... did at late at night that my excuse lol
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what's so good about the Mensa IQ test? At the end they tell you you have a good/very good/excellent chance or whatever to make it into Mensa. They want you to pay to take the paper and pencil test. And if you can't grasp that simple concept, maybe you are the type of person they want money from.
By stating "The best test I found yet is this one from Mensa", I didnt mean to say it was a great or accurate test. I just thought the questions were harder and probably more representative of a real IQ tests than ALL other easy tests Ive seen on the web. And Im not interested at all to make it into Mensa ; that also seems like an ego-trip to me, as I just dont see the point of having a "certificate" (or whatever), to show others your smarter than the average guy.